When using the word respectively after listing items and corresponding relations do you use a comma before it?
Example:
The corresponding sewer projections for the monthly and yearly flows are 18 and 200, respectively.
I can't believe that everyone is missing the point on this one. The comma should be a semi-colon as the separation is being used for a list. The other basic reason that a semicolon is needed is that it is a longer break and gives the reader a chance to process the info given and then to anticipate the complicated relationship implied by the term "respectively".
In this case, ‘respectively’ is essential (no comma) as it denotes ‘in the order already mentioned’, with 18 being the monthly sewer projection and 200 being the yearly counterpart. Without ‘respectively’, it would be unclear which projection each figure refers to or if the monthly and yearly projections both are 18 and 200.
Do you really need "respectively"? It doesn't say anything that isn't already said; it's superfluous; the order is already mentioned. Delete it. Use "respectively" when it truly matters:
The corresponding sewer projections for the monthly and yearly flows are 18 and 200; they were 15 and 139, respectively, under previous projections.
Commas are used to sort of rope off dependent clauses that, although they add to the sentence, aren't imperative to the sentence. You can remove any phrase in a sentence that is corded off by commas and the sentence should still be complete and readable. Yes, I know there are a few other ways to use commas, don't get me wrong.
When you add the comma in front of "respectively," it makes sense because the sentence can stand alone without the addition of that word.
I was going to suggest to GWU that "respectively" is not superfluous in this case, but the earlier "corresponding" does make "respectively" a bit redundant. I would delete one or the other. It reminds me of sentences like "Also, I like pizza, as well"
cern
July 27, 2011, 4:12pm
That's right.
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AnWulf
August 2, 2011, 8:12pm
In the example you gave, it is not needed. Only use a comma if it provides clarity. The sentence is perfectly clear without the comma.
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sigurd
August 3, 2011, 5:11am
I think the example is incorrect. The word ‘respectively’ is essential to the sentence’s meaning and shouldn’t be separated by a comma.
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koam
August 18, 2011, 6:26am
IMO "respectively" is not essential, but is used as a formality.
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BrockawayBaby
August 18, 2011, 3:02pm
I can't believe that everyone is missing the point on this one. The comma should be a semi-colon as the separation is being used for a list. The other basic reason that a semicolon is needed is that it is a longer break and gives the reader a chance to process the info given and then to anticipate the complicated relationship implied by the term "respectively".
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koam
August 18, 2011, 3:11pm
Troll or joking?
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BrockawayBaby
August 18, 2011, 3:16pm
Completely serious, koam. Was there something I missed. I always was taught that semicolons are used in lists. That's what I was trying to say.
I do have some problems with my brain and face because of birth defects, andd so I don't apreciate the "troll" comment.
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AnWulf
August 18, 2011, 6:05pm
@Brock ... How would you even write that with a semicolon? No semicolon, colon, or comma needed in this example.
The only thing missing hasn't anything to do with layout of the sentence but some units would be nice ... 18 gal? 200 L?
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sigurd
August 19, 2011, 2:35am
In this case, ‘respectively’ is essential (no comma) as it denotes ‘in the order already mentioned’, with 18 being the monthly sewer projection and 200 being the yearly counterpart. Without ‘respectively’, it would be unclear which projection each figure refers to or if the monthly and yearly projections both are 18 and 200.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/respec...
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koam
August 19, 2011, 5:19am
essential: nonsense
comma: optional
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BrockawayBaby
August 19, 2011, 9:46am
koam: assertions
sigurd: supported assertions
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GWU
August 21, 2011, 11:18pm
Do you really need "respectively"? It doesn't say anything that isn't already said; it's superfluous; the order is already mentioned. Delete it. Use "respectively" when it truly matters:
The corresponding sewer projections for the monthly and yearly flows are 18 and 200; they were 15 and 139, respectively, under previous projections.
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koam
August 22, 2011, 5:59am
GWU: correct.
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jacque
September 17, 2011, 4:48pm
Commas are used to sort of rope off dependent clauses that, although they add to the sentence, aren't imperative to the sentence. You can remove any phrase in a sentence that is corded off by commas and the sentence should still be complete and readable. Yes, I know there are a few other ways to use commas, don't get me wrong.
When you add the comma in front of "respectively," it makes sense because the sentence can stand alone without the addition of that word.
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porsche
September 18, 2011, 6:46am
I was going to suggest to GWU that "respectively" is not superfluous in this case, but the earlier "corresponding" does make "respectively" a bit redundant. I would delete one or the other. It reminds me of sentences like "Also, I like pizza, as well"
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Jadeno
February 6, 2012, 10:24am
What on earth are you on about, Brock? Unless you're joking and I missed the humour. haha. There is no list there...
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