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Are there diffferent types of latin?

Why are latin expressions written differently in English and in French? Example: “ne plus ultra” in English is “nec plus ultra” in French.

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LowB Feb-03-2006

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Only sort of on topic, but--I do know that there are several very different types of *pronunciation* of Latin used in different (modern) countries. The traditional German pronunciation of "ciel" (heaven), for example, starts with a "ts" sound, not the "ch" sound usually used by English or Italian speakers.

This is, I think, due to the fact that despite being a language nobody has spoken as their *first* language for many, many centuries, Latin continued to be the language of academic and (Christian) religious doings throughout all of Europe for hundreds of years, and continues to be an important religious language throughout much of it (and many other parts of the world) today. Whenever you have people speaking a language, even if they aren't using it at home, you have some linguistic change.

Avrom Feb-04-2006

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In latin nec and ne both mean not. It's not an english vs. french difference. it could be written both ways in latin and the meanings would be identical.

And yes, there are different kinds of latin for example classical, ecclesiastical, medieval.

Future_Mrs._Weller Feb-05-2006

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In Spanish, it's "Non plus ultra", which is in fact the motto of Spain...

Diego Mar-23-2006

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To respond to Avrom:
German doesn't come from Latin and is not a Romance language. Having said this, their pronounciation of Latin is probably butchered. The "ts" sound you're referring to is common in German. To gain a more proper pronounciation, one can look into Italian, Spanish, Portugese, French... and other Latin based languages.

Lenga, Diego:
It has the same meaning. non=ne=nec.
It is similar to the way that English has so many adjectives that mean the same thing. Huge, large, mammoth, enormous, gigantic.

or in this case, it would be different usages of a negative.
not, neither, nor, no, never, nobody, etc etc

Hope this helps.

Britt Aug-20-2006

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There is Classical Latin, and Vulgar Latin. Classical stopped being spoken, and the Vulgar became Spanish, French, Italian, etc. And the call those "Romance" languages? LOL!

tjones146 Jun-02-2009

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PIG LATIN

ex.(supper = uppersay

ming Dec-04-2011

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Yes, there are different types of Latin that developed over time. Classical Latin was spoken during ancient Roman times, while Ecclesiastical Latin evolved for religious use in the Catholic Church, and Medieval Latin was used in the Middle Ages for learning and administration.

Latin expressions like "ne plus ultra" in English and "nec plus ultra" in French may be written differently due to how they were adapted into each language. These variations happened because languages have different spelling rules and ways of pronouncing words. As Latin phrases were adopted into English and French over history, they were adjusted to fit each language's sounds and grammar, leading to differences in how they are written today. This adaptation process reflects the linguistic evolution that continues to shape languages studied through Higher Language programs.
https://higherlanguage.com/

elizabethwilliams_7 Jun-26-2024

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