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This reminds me of a poem I read once (not that it helps the discussion at all).

To find a rhyme for silver
Or any rhymeless rhyme
Requires only will, ver-
Bosity and time.

Joe July 2, 2006, 2:48pm

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I've noticed myself saying "quarter of" or "quarter till" under the presumption that the listener knows the hour, but saying "quarter to" if I feel they are clueless about the hour ("quarter to nine").

I've lived in many parts of the US and heard all three versions regardless of whether or not the hour is stated.

Joe June 2, 2006, 7:33am

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It seems to me that "he" or "him" would depend on where he and Ariel appear in the sentence diagram.
"Ariel and he" or "he and Ariel" as the subject
"Ariel and him" as the object

As far as the "'I' comes last" rule is concerned, I have always understood it to be a rule and not just a courtesy.

Joe February 3, 2006, 5:14pm

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