Pain in the English
Pain in the English

Unpacking English, Bit by Bit

A community for questioning, nitpicking, and debating the quirks and rules of the English language.

Pain in the English
Pain in the English

Unpacking English, Bit by Bit

A community for questioning, nitpicking, and debating the quirks and rules of the English language.

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wrongbook

Member Since

September 16, 2003

Total number of comments

2

Total number of votes received

8

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Latest Comments

a shit

  • September 16, 2003, 6:32pm

It has to do with whether it's treated as a substance or as an object. Most nouns are either one or the other: 'chalk' and 'water' are substances (you can't say 'a chalk' or 'a water'); 'piece' and 'body' are objects (so you can say 'a piece of chalk' or 'a body of water', but not 'it was full of piece,' or 'I was covered in body').

'Shit' can be used either way. So we can talk about 'a shit' when we mean a particular turd, or just 'shit' when we're talking about the substance.

"That's bullshit" and "He gave me shit" = shit as a substance
"I don't give a shit" = shit as an object (still a weird way to phrase it)

There are still odd things about colloquial phrases like those, though. How about, "I took a shit." Shouldn't it be, "I left a shit"?

Sweet and Savory

  • September 16, 2003, 6:24pm

It's weird, but 'sweet' is the opposite of almost every other kind of taste. Bitter - sweet; sour - sweet; salty - sweet.