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I just tought of one more. What is the plural form of shit? Yes! A piece of shit. So, "that is bull shit" wouldn't need an "a" in it. Since it is shit in the plural form. Or am I completely wrong here? And of course it is shortened from "(a load) of bullshit" or any other modified to the uncountable noun.

Robert January 18, 2003, 12:00pm

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Could perhaps the "I don't give a shit" use the word "shit" in the verb form rather than the noun? As in "make a run for it". Just MHO.

Robert January 18, 2003, 11:57am

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Motive = "motive for doing" (specific)
Motivation = "motivation in doing" (general)

IMHO, Limey put it nicely! Merge is speaking more about the connotations of the words, insightful stuff but not related to the quesition I think.

Robert January 18, 2003, 11:54am

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I suspect the reason why some words avoided the standard plural "s" is that they came into English from other languages, or that they were never actually used in the plural form, or mainly that they are already a plural word, and it is actually the singular that is different:

Cattle already means a herd of animal. There can really be no such thing as a singular cattle. Then it becomes a head of cattle, or a cow or whatever. Sheep for the same reason, or fish.

"Jim! Take two heads to the western pasture and wait for the rest of us to catch up!" (A wild west quote perhaps?)

Although I suspect that 90% of all English users say "Fishes"... (users, not only British people and speakers of Oxford English!).

But doubtlessly, there are others who know more about this than I, so speak up!

Robert January 18, 2003, 11:49am

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