Oh boy! I now have a PHD in the queen's language after reading your comments. Being 50 years old with a GED, I needed someone to tell me that I was right that there was some thing wrong with "exact same". And lo and behold, I got it. Thanks to Sluggo, John, Mr right, Trotski and Peter. Peter, I don't like the hate part,but yours was a serious class room lecture I never received. I appreciate it. NO HATE BUT LOVE. Cool!