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August 9, 2012
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Typo - not ust but just.
I have included a "Captain Mannering"ism - ust to see what response is generated.
Hello, In using your opening phrase - I hope you don't mind - I'm afraid I have to.............I do actually have to disagree with you - too. Having covered many hundreds of thousands of miles as an HGV driver - over more decades that I care to remember - across the UK and elsewhere, I've experienced many takes on the pronunciation of said places: Middlesborough is four not three syllables as is Edinburgh. Maybe pockets of the country have slightly different pronunciations- Kircuddy would confuse all but the locals - but the majority has to rule, or there would be much confusion and woe. Listen to any TV newscaster to hear how they butcher place names. There has to be consensus. That being so, I suppose we'll just have to agree to differ: I offer no such concessions to the likes of DAW, though. You may disagree as is your right, but my experience of many other folk's take on the pronunciations is how I've said - and I agree with them. Anyone's personal idea is just that - not a majority view: nor is is just poncy Englishmen who appear to speak in a bizarre manner.Wikipedia? If I had a pound for every inaccuracy I've spotted on there, then I'd have enough for a nice long holiday in the Cairngorms!
Brus, I'm not sorry for two reasons. The first is that a bit of levity brightens the day, and secondly it goes some way to show DAW that he's well, bizarre, with his posts. Cheers, Les
The 42/45 war? 'Nuff said!
Hi WW, Nice to hear from you!Ensure-insure?If - according to the infamous Noah - they are interchangeable, pray tell why I, and I'm sure many, many others (no doubt yourself as well) insure our cars/auto's - we don't ensure or assure them. That's just one example where the revered Noah - I jest, of course - falls flat.Have you ever taken out life ensurance - seems pretty odd don't you think, to assume you can, as whim takes you, substitute one for t'other.As I said to the slightly deranged DAW:I/we/you tell our partners to "ensure (i.e. make sure) that you tell little Jimmy/Johnny or whoever to clean his teeth before he goes to bed".Not in any context would you insure same - or if you did, insure him against what? The tooth fairy coming to get him if he didn't?Insurance (insure) and ensurance (were there to be such a word) would be two different things; one being to take out cover against some sort of eventuality and the other being to take action so that some other action would come to fruition.Assure is a completely different kettle of fish altogether!Life assurance policies acknowledge the inevitable, and offer a financial situation at the end of a specified time.Life insurance covers against a possible action, which "may" need addressing at some unspecified time.Ensure doesn't apply at all in this context. That's how we differentiate it here in the UK.What words would be used - appropriately - by Americans to describe the two situations above? Help me, I really need to know!Bonnet/boot - although not the peculiar ones that DAW alludes to - /hood/trunk: we all - both sides of the pond - know exactly what is meant by using any of those words. I don't think any are better/worse than the others - they all make sense (although I do remember Model T's had a different bonnet, like many cars of the time, and drawing that term from vehicles like a "Surrey with the fringe on top".All the best, and could I ask you to say a prayer for DAW, in the hope that he might return to the land of the rational.Best wishes, Les (London)
Typo - missed out the "enti" in inconsequentia.
Oh dear DAW, do you have nothing better than to bring out that old chestnut again.For clarification:We never had Nazi jack-boots marching down our streets - we kept them out: yes, before your rather late intervention (as was the case in the 1914-18 conflict). You never joined the fight against fascism and the Axis for any sort of altruistic reasons - purely for self advancement - when your own interests were threatened, and a desire to show that you were capable of taking on the Third Reich.Europe paid handsomely for your help - just as we paid handsomely in terms of human flesh for the right to be free of Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito. Oh, I see, Pearl Harbour had nothing to do with it, when your nose was put out of joint? My American friends would be ashamed of a character like you purporting to represent them.Basically you're just a clown with an over-inflated idea of self-importance - which endears you to no one. Very sad.I
Oh dear, Jasper, what are we to do with DAW?It's mildly amusing to see him get his knickers in a twist, but the worrying part - perhaps even for his family - is that he sincerely believes the ill-reasoned twaddle that he comes out with. Do you have any laws - stateside - like part of our Mental Health Act i.e. sectioning? This enables sane people to require those with suspect sanity to be looked after for their own good. Actually, thinking about it, DAW might possibly already be in some sort of institution, as he has an awful lot of spare time on his hands - he must be, else how would have the time to collate his unending ramblings about inconsequa (freshly coined by me), which bores us rigid.Peculiar British boots? Haven't a clue, I'm afraid. Cheers, Les.
My, DAW, you surely are from one of America's most gifted families - that, or you're full of bullshit: I suspect the latter.You show your true level by starting your last post with "Wheeler": this is a forum about English usage - in all its variants, but you choose to open with rank rudeness.You really are a pompous boor - do you know that?Warsaw Will, Jasper, Jeremy Wheeler and I have got your measure - you're just a twat that we sometimes indulge. However, the novelty is wearing off now. Sad that a grown man behaves the way you choose to.
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