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Re: What Rhymes?  •  June 13, 2010, 11:57am  •  0 vote

Autumn, it may be a little late, but euronymous rhymes with anonymous..

Re: Computer Keyboard  •  June 5, 2010, 9:36am  •  0 vote

By the way, Adam, it's pronounced "till-duh", not "till-dee".

Re: Right Question For this Answer (about count/rank/order)  •  June 5, 2010, 9:21am  •  0 vote

The "numerological" position has nothing to do with the order. Numerology is the superstitious occult study of numbers (usually one's birthday) as they affect the outcome of our lives. It's the "as

Re: How many “ands” in a row  •  May 31, 2010, 11:53am  •  2 votes

Then the Painter turns to the helper and says, "no, not That that, THAT that!"

Re: First Generation vs. Second Generation  •  May 20, 2010, 11:38am  •  3 votes

Warren, we call people like you British (or British American if you prefer). The people who whipped the British and formed the United States were mostly British themselves. Oh, and while we're at it

Re: why does english have capital letters?  •  May 19, 2010, 1:26pm  •  3 votes

Carolingian scribe, your post was certainly interesting, except for one thing. Why did you start by saying "English does not have capital letters"? Accurate or not, everything you posted explains wh

Re: Resource (singular) used when referring to a person  •  May 15, 2010, 12:27pm  •  0 vote

Hey, welcome to paininthecyrillic.com!

Re: pronunciation of th  •  May 15, 2010, 12:25pm  •  0 vote

As for "with", I don't think it's purely a matter of dialect. I think it also depends on what comes next. I really have to think about this some more and research it as well, but I noticed that I us

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  May 9, 2010, 11:28pm  •  1 vote

This whole "none" thing is really much simpler than it seems. Consider: 1 - No [singular noun] is... 2 - No [plural noun] are... 3 - Not any [singular noun] is... 4 - Not any [plural noun] are.

Re: Word in question: Conversate  •  April 30, 2010, 10:46am  •  4 votes

Lisa, a study of grammatology isn't required to use proper grammar. Only of study of grammar is, and a basic one at that.

Re: Friendly - adjective and adverb?  •  April 24, 2010, 2:37pm  •  2 votes

While it is common to form adverbs by adding "-ly" to adjectives, there are plenty of adjectives that end in "-ly", usually by adding it to nouns: lovely, shapely, orderly, homely, etc. There are al

Re: Plural form of sense of humour  •  April 8, 2010, 5:57pm  •  13 votes

While I agree that sense of humor would be pluralized as senses of humor, it's a little more complicated than that. Sense of humor is an abstract noun or noun phrase. In many cases, it is not counta

Re: The use of “hey” in place of “hello”.  •  March 27, 2010, 2:38am  •  1 vote

I've noticed that a number of books I've read from 1940's and before, from the UK, use "hallo" rather than "hullo" or "hello".

Re: Sheep, Fish, and Cattle  •  March 10, 2010, 11:04pm  •  0 vote

Head? I love it. That's great, especially since I never would have thought of it, but it is so familiar and obvious once you see an example. Ok, I've thought of a few and been playing with Google, s

Re: How do I write out .25% ?  •  March 8, 2010, 10:45pm  •  1 vote

While I just posted something similar in a related topic, I'd like to ask the same thing in reverse: How would you write “point two five percent” using only arabic numerals and symbols? Answer:

Re: Writing out percentages correctly  •  March 8, 2010, 5:55pm  •  0 vote

Oh, and to make the analogy complete, how would you write "four and five tenths percent" using only arabic numerals and symbols? Answer: 4-5/10%

Re: Writing out percentages correctly  •  March 8, 2010, 5:52pm  •  0 vote

For those of you who insist it should be "four and nine hundred seventy five thousandths percent" or something similar. Here's something to consider. Let's say we ask a few simpler questions in reve

Re: How do I write out .25% ?  •  March 4, 2010, 8:04pm  •  3 votes

Let me give you an example that might clarify, not about percents, but illustrates the same idea. If someone asked you what the value of pi is, 3.14159..., you'd say "three point one four one five ni

Re: How do I write out .25% ?  •  March 4, 2010, 7:57pm  •  4 votes

If I were reading it out loud and wanted to be literal, I'd probably say "point two five percent". Actually, I'd expect to see it as 0.25% with a leading zero, and read it accordingly. If I were re

Re: Word in question: Conversate  •  March 1, 2010, 11:22am  •  0 vote

Cecily, perhaps I wasn't clear or you may have misunderstood. Orientate might be unremarkable in the UK, but that wasn't my point. Orientate is not unremarkable everywhere. Orient is.

Re: Word in question: Conversate  •  February 3, 2010, 11:16am  •  11 votes

Vatta, I would suggest that comparing to "orientate" doesn't really help. Regarding "...it’s now so common, it’s unremarkable..." I would disagree. I realize that some sources do not object to "ori

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  January 31, 2010, 11:55am  •  6 votes

hot4teacher, after your last post, I thought I might be able to clarify a few things for you. Let me address a few of your comments: When you said: "At no point did I state that I was correct n

Re: “This is she” vs. “This is her”  •  January 20, 2010, 12:25am  •  0 vote

Oh, and thanks, John. I was just about to post "where is John the linguist when we need him?":) (assuming, of course, you're the same John)

Re: “This is she” vs. “This is her”  •  January 20, 2010, 12:23am  •  0 vote

Marilyn, I believe you are under a misconception. Regarding your statement: "... But this is a forum on correct grammar and usage as dictated by the rules, such as they are...", nothing could be furt

Re: your call will be answered in the order it was received  •  January 19, 2010, 4:09pm  •  3 votes

OK, how about this one? I just called the IRS. While on hold, I heard this exact comment: "our customers are answered in the order received" not "calls" but "our customers." Doesn't that sound od

Re: “This is she” vs. “This is her”  •  January 19, 2010, 12:12pm  •  0 vote

I won't assert that it is always followed, but the prescriptive rule is that "lie" is intransitive and "lay" is transitive. As for the bit about "'lie' is for people, 'lay' is for things",well, I wou

Re: Resume, resumé, or résumé?  •  January 19, 2010, 11:50am  •  4 votes

Atomaton, regarding: "The résumé is properly pronounced REZ-oo-MEY. That is, the emphasis is on the first AND the third sylable. (Which is why it has accents there.)" I'm sorry but I have to dis

Re: Got  •  January 13, 2010, 5:03pm  •  0 vote

While there may be times when "got" is inappropriate, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it. It's a perfectly valid word, actually, a fundamental one, crucial to the language, like to be, to go

Re: “went missing/gone missing”?  •  January 11, 2010, 5:08pm  •  3 votes

I'll bet Grammar Girl would have conniptions over "went AWOL."

Re: “went missing/gone missing”?  •  January 11, 2010, 2:55am  •  1 vote

Is it any worse than "go crazy", "go awry", "go nuts", or "go gaga over"?

Re: “Verbiage” used instead of wordiness or excessively long writing  •  January 8, 2010, 5:15pm  •  0 vote

If the engineers you are describing clearly disliked reading anything longer than a paragraph and had contempt for longer documents, then isn't it possible that they WERE using "verbiage" in accordanc

Re: me vs. myself  •  January 5, 2010, 4:00pm  •  4 votes

I still take issue with the use of myself in the original sentence. In the fragment ...like myself..., the pronoun "myself" is not reflexive. In order to be reflexive, it would have to be the object

Re: semi-colon and colon in one sentence  •  January 3, 2010, 6:14pm  •  1 vote

If I may ask, why the need to jam together so much into one sentence and create a punctuation nightmare? It's even slightly confusing as to whether your cousins, your teachers, and the Smiths are act

Re: me vs. myself  •  December 30, 2009, 11:09am  •  10 votes

There are both good and bad comments above. Chris, great description of when to use "myself", but you and several others have mistakenly suggested that "myself" is the subject of the sentence. It is

Re: Adding a question mark to ensure a response  •  December 22, 2009, 6:24pm  •  2 votes

More often than not, when you end a non-question statement with a question mark, it implies incredulity, disapproval, etc.: "You're going out with him?" "You ate the whole thing?" "You did wh

Re: “Zen” as an Adjective  •  December 21, 2009, 9:38am  •  1 vote

Oh that's funny. My wife told me this would happen while I was posting it. Roger, I meant the Zen comment somewhat tongue in cheek, in keeping with the other comments above about Zen being the new c

Re: “I’m just saying”  •  December 20, 2009, 9:17pm  •  1 vote

Roger, maybe it was just a typo, but I think you mean yenta, not zenta.

Re: “Zen” as an Adjective  •  December 20, 2009, 9:12pm  •  1 vote

Ben, if you mean houses designed harmoniously rather than efficiently, then you're probably thinking of "feng shui". That's oh so very Zen.

Re: Space After Period  •  December 16, 2009, 3:18pm  •  0 vote

Mister Peabody, why did you direct your last post at me? It has absolutely nothing to do with my previous post.

Re: decapitalize vs. uncapitalize  •  December 16, 2009, 11:04am  •  0 vote

I would suggest that if you want to tell your student to convert a capital to lower case, you should tell him or her to caplitalize. After all, removing bones from a chicken is called boning. I supp

Re: Space After Period  •  December 16, 2009, 10:51am  •  0 vote

Regarding: "...the standard practice is to use a single space after a period, as you [Doug] did in your own post..." and: "...As a matter of fact, every person here used a single space in their pos

Re: Twenty-ten vs Two thousand-ten  •  December 12, 2009, 10:32am  •  6 votes

I am amazed at how many posts on this site center around a simple lack of understanding that there can be many ways to say the same thing and that they are all perfectly ok.

Re: A perfectly acceptable construction  •  December 8, 2009, 11:46am  •  4 votes

This is just an off-the-cuff comment, but I think it's an idiomatic issue. You can't quite put your finger on what's wrong because all of the versions you've asked about are grammatically correct. t

Re: Street Address vs. Mailing Address  •  December 6, 2009, 3:53pm  •  1 vote

Once I received a piece of junk mail that had my correct name on it. It had the street address from a company that I used to work for, but drastically misspelled. It also had a different city, from

Re: troops vs soldiers  •  December 5, 2009, 1:14pm  •  4 votes

Gilbert, as inarticulate as Bush may be, and as much as I blame him for many, many things (and I really do), I'm afraid you really can't blame him for this whole troop/troops thing. It predates his t

Re: Prohibits...to be or from being?  •  December 3, 2009, 3:43pm  •  4 votes

In general, it's "...prohibits you from..." and "...allows you to..." Similarly, it would be "...stops/bans/keeps you from..." and "...permits you to...", but simply "...lets you (run, eat, whatever,

Re: Hi all vs. Hi everybody  •  November 24, 2009, 2:40pm  •  2 votes

Let me go out on a limb here. I would suggest that there is really no such thing as formal correspondence via e-mail. I consider the very medium to be unreliable and informal by nature. It's unpred

Re: all _____ sudden  •  November 21, 2009, 12:55pm  •  0 vote

When you hang a door, the space between the door and the door frame is called a "reveal", not a "revelation". Also, in a TV ad, the moment when the product is displayed, often as a solution to some c

Re: What is the word for intentionally incorrect spelling?  •  November 17, 2009, 12:07am  •  0 vote

Actually, Name, a malapropism is a ridiculous, absurd, or humorous, misuse of a word. It isn't necessarily similar in sound, but usually is. As such, I would say it is exactly what Ian has described

Re: What is the word for intentionally incorrect spelling?  •  November 15, 2009, 9:59am  •  2 votes

To Ian, what about "malapropism"? It's not exactly what you are looking for, but it's close. It describes the word misuse exactly, but does not require the misuse to be intentional. Of course, you

Re: Capitalizing After the Colon  •  November 1, 2009, 5:16pm  •  1 vote

Hey, M, regarding your posting of links to the Chicago Manual of Style: you have to register to see those links. While they do offer a 30-day free trial, it's a PAY site. You aren't selling somethi

Re: Social vs Societal  •  October 27, 2009, 6:54pm  •  29 votes

Jon, Michael, how about this? "The fraternity's social activities were very popular with the rest of the college community." Translation: they had orgiastic keg parties that were very well atten

Re: the spinning around machine  •  October 14, 2009, 1:05pm  •  0 vote

AO, Brett, "around" can be either an adverb or a preposition. When used in "spinning around", it's an adverb that means "in a circular manner". It does not mean "to encircle something else". Also,

Re: Past tense of “text”  •  October 5, 2009, 2:45pm  •  1 vote

oops, correction. In the post above, I meant half a millenium, not half a century.

Re: Past tense of “text”  •  October 5, 2009, 2:41pm  •  22 votes

Douglas, we often agree, but I'm afraid I have to side with Mark this time, even on the points that he has already capitulated. First of all, all these word lists and examples aren't particularly

Re: your call will be answered in the order it was received  •  September 28, 2009, 5:48pm  •  2 votes

No, you did not get my point. Referring to an individual thing in a context where other things exist is not the same thing as referring to an individual thing in isolation, nor does it imply that it

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  September 23, 2009, 11:30am  •  4 votes

Regarding: "As far as I am aware, the etymological fallacy describes, basically, the necessity for words to hold their original meanings." I'm sorry, hot4teacher, but the exact opposite is true.

Re: Fetch Referring to People?  •  September 21, 2009, 7:53am  •  0 vote

Glynn, bosses give "commands" all the time. Actually, non-bosses give commands all the time. What exactly is it about "fetch" that would make it ill-received? If your boss said "Go fetch Bill and J

Re: Loose = Lose?  •  September 16, 2009, 6:15pm  •  3 votes

When I see: “I didn’t want to loose the car keys.” I imagine the "s" in "loose" being pronounced unvoiced. I picture someone not losing their keys, but setting them free to roam about on their own (w

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  September 15, 2009, 8:09am  •  1 vote

Also, regarding: "Yes I am claiming that. Since the word “forum” is a Latin word used in the English language, I do not see how using the English-based plural system would apply." Hot4teacher, usin

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  September 15, 2009, 7:58am  •  1 vote

Hot4teacher, I think I have to agree, at least in th abstract. If the only thing a free kick accomplishes is to set the possession of the ball without a direct opportunity to score, then clearlly, th

Re: your call will be answered in the order it was received  •  September 15, 2009, 7:41am  •  3 votes

I think you miss my point. Referring to a single item in a list, singly, does not imply that it is the only item. referring to "call" instead of "calls" does not in any way negate the presence of th

Re: your call will be answered in the order it was received  •  September 14, 2009, 6:52pm  •  2 votes

Christian, have you ever stood in line? Oh wait, by your reasoning, that would be impossible. Even if there are ten people in line, no single person can be in that line. It would be meaningless to

Re: Is ‘love’ continuous or not?  •  September 14, 2009, 12:52pm  •  0 vote

Personally, I'd give McD's a little more credit. Do you really think that they were unaware of the nonstandard nature of "I'm lovin' it"? Quite the contrary, I think they RELIED on it. If their slo

Re: Following are / Followings are  •  September 14, 2009, 9:13am  •  0 vote

Actually, lastronin, "followings" as a plural noun suggests two or more groups of "followers" of possibly two or more leaders. E.g., "Both Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have large followings. The

Re: Complete Sentence  •  September 14, 2009, 8:42am  •  3 votes

Sorry, James, both "I" and "a" are words, shorter than "go". They're not full sentences, but they're definitely words!

Re: Don’t mind if I do  •  September 8, 2009, 11:34pm  •  6 votes

Ok, you're in a restaurant. During dessert, your server comes to the table and says: "Would you like some more coffee?" You think for a moment, then reply: "I wouldn't mind that at all, why thank yo

Re: Fora vs Forums  •  September 6, 2009, 8:44pm  •  4 votes

It's very telling, hot4teacher, that one of your pet peeves is the misuse of "who" and "whom", considering that you use "whom" incorrectly in your very first sentence. It's also odd that you're pisse

Re: Why have media changed our words?  •  August 31, 2009, 5:44pm  •  0 vote

More discussion of this here: http://painintheenglish.com/?p=4191

Re: Why have media changed our words?  •  August 31, 2009, 1:51pm  •  1 vote

I don't understand your objection to "shot to death" at all. There's a logical fallacy in comparing it to "shot to life". You've neglected to consider the excluded middle; i.e., John Doe could well

Re: obstinacy vs. obstinancy  •  August 29, 2009, 12:07pm  •  0 vote

Oh, and I stand corrected. I was mistaken when I said obstinancy was not a word. I couldn't find it in a few dictionaries, but clearly it is in some, perhaps as nonstandard, but still a word, I supp

Re: obstinacy vs. obstinancy  •  August 29, 2009, 12:01pm  •  0 vote

What about compliance vs. compliancy? Consistency vs. consistence? Subsistence vs. subsistency? Personally, I would use the former in each case, but dictionaries list both.

Re: ab  •  August 26, 2009, 5:07pm  •  0 vote

Speedwell, et al., I have to take issue with many of your comments. Nowhere in the original question is there any indication that the root without the ab- need be a word at all, English or otherwise.

Re: Difference between a release and a waiver  •  August 26, 2009, 4:25pm  •  0 vote

Very interesting, anon. You may be right. Just as you suspected, Emil's document says: "I waive the right...", not "I release the right..." Later on, it says: "I...release...the Department of Labor

Re: Difference between a release and a waiver  •  August 24, 2009, 5:53pm  •  0 vote

I'm no lawyer either, but several sources define them similarly. In at least one case (irrelevant to your example), there may be a difference. Permission to deviate from some rule may also be referr

Re: Hi all vs. Hi everybody  •  August 19, 2009, 9:23pm  •  0 vote

I don't know, Douglas. I would agree with you that old-fashioned or not, you can't go wrong with it. It is becoming rarer, though. By the way, I meant ...elided..., not ...ellided....

Re: Hi all vs. Hi everybody  •  August 19, 2009, 7:02pm  •  4 votes

"Dear" may certainly be correct in many circumstances, but it's been my experience, particularly in business communications, that both formality and informality have all but disappeared and been repla

Re: Two Weeks Notice  •  August 19, 2009, 6:40pm  •  4 votes

Archie, I would agree that as an adjective, orientated is more common in the UK with oriented being more common in the USA; however, it would be incorrect to state that the American version was derive

Re: Apostrophes  •  August 9, 2009, 10:59pm  •  0 vote

Sorry Smart Hick, but you should look into it again because you are mistaken. While 1990 can be abreviated as '90, it would in fact be incorrect to abbreviate the nineties as the '90s. The apostroph

Re: obstinacy vs. obstinancy  •  August 5, 2009, 4:24pm  •  1 vote

oops, that's ...committed...

Re: obstinacy vs. obstinancy  •  August 5, 2009, 1:07pm  •  4 votes

Obstinancy is not a word. It should be obstinance which can be compared to obstinacy. Interestingly, obstinant is not listed in some dictionaries and in others, shown as non-preferred. Obstinatenes

Re: 46 year old heated Caribbean debate  •  August 1, 2009, 9:45am  •  0 vote

If thousands of letters have been written about this, then my take has probably been stated before. Here goes: I'm betting that Trinidad and Tobago, being populated by humans, are not 100% free of r

Re: a long sentence with the verb “demand”  •  July 31, 2009, 2:52pm  •  2 votes

While he may not have addressed your question directly, I have to agree with Dyske. Another thing I find awkward is your use of "demand". A demand is a strong call to action. I won't insist it's act

Re: Littler  •  July 22, 2009, 8:32pm  •  4 votes

RE: "We learn not to add comparitive [sic] suffixes to words with more than one syllable." Really? What about happier, sillier, hairier, (nearly any adjective ending in -y becomes -ier, comparativ

Re: “I says”  •  July 10, 2009, 3:26pm  •  1 vote

I have heard "I says" fairly often. Of course, I'm from New York. I don't use it myself. If you think about it, when relating a story, "I said...and he said...and she said...and you said" becomes p

Re: “This is she” vs. “This is her”  •  June 24, 2009, 7:35pm  •  0 vote

By the way, my name is not Rene, and I am male, but the original question is about "...her speaking..."

Re: “This is she” vs. “This is her”  •  June 24, 2009, 7:33pm  •  0 vote

Oh, come on now. Isn't it obvious that when someone says “This is her speaking”, that "speaking" is not a noun? Surely no one actually believes that it's a declaration of "TA DA! I am presenting yo

Re: As of  •  June 10, 2009, 6:56pm  •  6 votes

Wow, this has ballooned into several issues. First, your question, does "as of yesterday..." mean the same thing as "by the end of yesterday..."? Well, yes and no. I don't think that the words "as

Re: “independence from” or “independence to”?  •  May 27, 2009, 6:31pm  •  0 vote

Oops, wrong tense. That's ...maintain...remain..., no "-ed" at the end.

Re: “independence from” or “independence to”?  •  May 27, 2009, 6:28pm  •  0 vote

Regarding: "The union, though weak and poor, managed to remain their independence from other big, influential interest groups." This isn't quite right. I would suggest that it should be either "..

Re: My mother wishes my child be like me.  •  May 27, 2009, 1:12pm  •  3 votes

"Be" isn't more archaic. "Be" is the present subjunctive and "were" is the past subjunctive. Normally, a wish for something contrary to fact, as in the example being discussed, would use the past su

Re: My mother wishes my child be like me.  •  May 25, 2009, 11:44am  •  1 vote

I think most people would say "My mother wishes my child would be like me" (or ...could...etc.); however, "My mother wishes my child be like me", with "be" replacing "is" to reflect a wish for somethi

Re: “It is one of his girlfriends.”  •  May 19, 2009, 3:00pm  •  0 vote

Now, wait a minute. You said "...one of his GIRLZFRENDZ..." Is this a typo or is the extra Z the "linguistic innovation" you are describing? Did you actually hear "...one of his girlZZZZZfrendZZZZ?

Re: One of the most...  •  May 19, 2009, 2:25pm  •  5 votes

Boy, I wish I had time to really weigh in on this, but I am compelled to make some quick comments. This is getting just plain silly. First of all, as John said, there's nothing intrinsically wrong w

Re: Peter thins them out  •  May 18, 2009, 7:30pm  •  3 votes

I visited the link of the Japanese program. As I don't speak Japanese, most of it was beyond me, but I did glean that it's a game show of some sort, not a news or educational program. Also, it seems

Re: “study of” vs. “study on”  •  May 11, 2009, 5:39pm  •  1 vote

Of course book is a different word. I was making an analogy solely (and correctly) to exemplify the comparative use of the prepositions of and on, "of" indicating specificity and "on" meaning "the su

Re: “It is one of his girlfriends.”  •  May 11, 2009, 4:36pm  •  0 vote

While, technically, the answer is ambiguous, I think that Dyske's choice #1 (he has many girlfriends, and the car belongs to one of them) is the one that makes the most sense. If he only had one girl

Re: “study of” vs. “study on”  •  May 9, 2009, 6:31pm  •  2 votes

It's a matter of context and the desired meaning of the preposition. Compare: "I wrote a book of poetry" (I wrote a book which consists of poems) with: "I wrote a book on poetry" (I wrote an

Re: “study of” vs. “study on”  •  May 9, 2009, 6:23pm  •  9 votes

I don't think it's so much as to whether study is a noun, but which particular noun. If you're using study to mean the act of learning a particular discipline, I would say "...study of..." as in "Th

Re: Verb, the process of being  •  May 6, 2009, 1:05pm  •  2 votes

I don't think transitive vs. intransitive is what Dr. Mc is looking for. Transitive vs. intransitive only has to do with whether or not the verb takes an object. In "I ate yesterday", "ate" is intra

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