jayles

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Re: “Anglish”  •  May 28, 2011, 11:32pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "How about stubborn for pigheaded? I always like to say churlish, boorish, uncouth, or loutish instead of rude" Yes I agree I feel most latin words borrowed in the last five hundred years

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 28, 2011, 12:07am  •  0 vote

"uncooperative = unhelpful, bullheaded, pigheaded, headstrong, willful, unbending, wayward, unyielding, stubborn, strong-willed" eg I do find your behavior rather unhelpful. .......... yes that's ver

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 27, 2011, 11:28pm  •  1 vote

Ængelfolc: Well that gets my vote; it is as understandable as the original (which is pretty much hot-air anyway). It is unfortunate that when people hear the word "burgher" these days they think one i

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 27, 2011, 4:54pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: As a matter of curiosity, why is it that we have the "ish" ending on punish, distinguish, embellish, finish, abolish, etc (polish?) when in modern french there is no such ending. Is this an

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 27, 2011, 4:45pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc : yes I agree and "ongoing assessment outcomes" actually sounds quite normal. I also liked "with age comes ailing". I think I only chose "ague" for the alliteration, but "ailing' is actually

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 25, 2011, 10:20pm  •  0 vote

Also: I wrote this: "Yes indeed hindsight gives us wisdom, but with wisdom comes age and with age comes agues and in the end death itself is the end of wisdom." Now if we use "ailments' ins

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 25, 2011, 10:16pm  •  0 vote

or something to do with naval ratings...

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 25, 2011, 10:02pm  •  0 vote

On the other main (ie hand) to teach "deterioration" I began with "worse" -> worsen -> worsening. There really are some words we need to loose. In the last few days I have specifically taught "unco

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 25, 2011, 9:48pm  •  1 vote

ferthfrith: nicely done though now I don't understand it. Perhaps if one took out all the Germanic words instead it would be easier? Eg: La Modern Whig philosophy et principles et la solutions a ce

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 23, 2011, 6:43pm  •  0 vote

"Outside of the big cities, it is probably a lot less like what you have described." Well maybe up till now You could make a last stand for Anglish in some remote valley in Northumbria, in the hills

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 18, 2011, 6:31pm  •  0 vote

"Language and culture have little to do with DNA," But what exactly is wrong with beautiful Norman/anglo-french words like "sheriff"; or celtic words like "carry" why would you deny us our heritage? W

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 16, 2011, 9:40pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Situation normal; alternative words work for some of the meanings and usages but not all. eg a) This year's models include several new safety features b) Her eyes are her best feature I

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 16, 2011, 1:06am  •  0 vote

"I'd like you to meet..." is a nice anglish way of introducing people. "May I present..." ("Darf ich vorstellen..") is fine in German but too demeaning or snooty for normal business or social life i

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 15, 2011, 9:04pm  •  0 vote

The pitfalls of etymology: a) session: sitting as in "afternoon session" at the cinema. Oh yes. from sedere to sit (L) but what about "football practice session" .... they don't sit

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 15, 2011, 8:50pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "No, I am not a weapons dealer!! " Of course not, I believe you! No, really, I do. Rowling? Tolkien? I confess I have read neither. You may shrive me. But successful books today are writte

Re: Usage rules for adverbs  •  May 11, 2011, 8:01pm  •  7 votes

Normal word order in English is Subject Verb Object Manner Place Time (SVOMPT) Some adverbs (especially of frequency) are usually placed between subject and verb (as in this sentence). Also question

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 10, 2011, 6:41pm  •  1 vote

Ængelfolc: "All one needs is a thesaurus and an English etymological dictionary." I would be much easier if there was a nice program on the web that simply highlighted the latinate words in your docu

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 10, 2011, 6:33pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: a) I introduced the topic of overpopulation to highlight the relative importance of Anglish; there are I believe more pressing issues. As I understand it wheat for Rome was mainly grown aro

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 11:28pm  •  0 vote

Academia is a tough target; it would be easier to target business via plain-speaking; this would then provide a platform to influence academics

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 11:26pm  •  0 vote

It is quite true that as children native speakers learn phrasal verbs and mostly saxonesque wordstock first, and only come to the more academic and latinate words as a result of compulsory education.

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 11:24pm  •  0 vote

Attacking the church and academia will indeed bring peril to your soul

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 11:22pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "most women in European countries are NOT helping those countries ....... maintain the population" I believer you have the wherewithal to correct this situation... go forth and spread yours

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 10:58pm  •  0 vote

Incidentally where I live sheep used to outnumber humans by 25:1. but it's less so now.

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 10:56pm  •  0 vote

Yes the question remains however will the number of native english speakers rise or fall in the next few decades, and how many will be motivated to clean up English? Or how would one motivate them?

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 10:16pm  •  0 vote

Not quite yet, Shall we make it 2.5 billion at birth? Must use my glasses more....

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 9:13pm  •  0 vote

It's funny how "hercog" is in hungarian and I never consciously connected it with German. I must be a right herbert!

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 7, 2011, 9:06pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "Most folks wouldn't take (or have) the time," (to find real enlish words) I agree. Absolument! "Most folks" wouldn't even have the inclination either. They are not exactly marching on

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 4, 2011, 11:45pm  •  1 vote

"Old English is not really needed to speak true English." Oh thank goodness!! I have always found modern languages more useful, unless of course one wishes to be a priest, although once or twice I h

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 4, 2011, 6:52pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "Three-In-One" was the brand name of an lubricatigt oil in my youth. I used it on my bike. It is the connotations which give us cause for mirth. Re "of": I wasn't very clear: I was think

Re: “Anglish”  •  May 1, 2011, 5:31pm  •  0 vote

1) 'The holy trinity' -> 'the holy threesome' ???? (but it sounds like a romp) 2) Usage of "of"; as I understand it this was used to translate the french "de" in both its partitive and possessi

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 30, 2011, 4:26pm  •  0 vote

"BTW, most "academics" are Francophiles and Latinophiles." Is that what it takes to get a Latino woman?

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 28, 2011, 1:22am  •  0 vote

Or better "Ongoing and end rating benchmarks need to be made clear and wrapped up." >??

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 27, 2011, 9:17pm  •  1 vote

Ængelfolc: you should be proud of me: I have actually used "wordstock" instead of "vocabulary" in a report to my boss: we shall see if it is understood or not. However, it is so automatic to use Lati

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 25, 2011, 5:47pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: your putforwards are better than mine. But how are people supposed to know which are germanic and which are latin? Obvious to you and and everyone in the Sprachschuetzpolizei but not to you

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 24, 2011, 12:34am  •  0 vote

"file" is of course "NO-NO" french when it pertains to a filing system in an office; but "YES-OK" Germanic when one is filing one's toenails. Straightforward enough!

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 24, 2011, 12:28am  •  0 vote

So let us take an example: "place" eg your place or mine? Just looking in a thesaurus for words in lieu we have: (as verbs) put.........norse rest...........rester in french lay ..............Ger

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 23, 2011, 9:22pm  •  0 vote

Here is a list of latinate words included in the top 250 oftenest words in English: person use place states general part during govern course fact system form program present government

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 23, 2011, 9:04pm  •  0 vote

Well I would love to make Anglish work, and there are good substitutes for some common words like "person"; however there are also some common words such as "use" for which there is no ready allpurpos

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 21, 2011, 5:52pm  •  0 vote

oops junction 19

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 21, 2011, 5:17pm  •  0 vote

One must not get obsessed by immigration issues, for we all came "out of Africa", except of course those 'Nieanderthaler' living near junction 29 on the 'A' drei.

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 21, 2011, 4:58pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: one approach to Anglish would be to look at the non-Germanic words by frequency. For example "information" and "government" are in the top 3000 words in English. Are we going to change or a

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 21, 2011, 4:43pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "Has this happened where you live?" Immigration issues and cultural swamping are simply side-effects of underlying overpopulation; but yes the current "politically correct" climate does not

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 20, 2011, 1:21am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Thanks for correcting the report on weath and names. The following seems odd: 'Such names indicated a descent from Anglo-Saxon nobility, who came to England after the Norman Conquest and a

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 20, 2011, 12:32am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: I must be halfway extinct then: at my local shopping mall they still speak english at the bank, postoffice, and one of the three supermarkets. Throughout rest of the mall - and this in a co

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 19, 2011, 10:32pm  •  0 vote

And finally finally while we all squabble over the language, the chinese, saudis, japanese, or someone are busy buying up the countryside, and cities, and former Viking settlements like Ingloss.

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 19, 2011, 9:41pm  •  0 vote

finally a recent report in England stated that William's mates and offspring were still ten percent better off on average than Saxons.

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 19, 2011, 9:40pm  •  0 vote

To continue with the issues: 1) Target market: who is Anglish for? Not for the globish, nor for the Welsh, nor for the Scots, nor for the Fitzwilliams, de Mounceys, Maundervilles, Abbots and Sextons

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 19, 2011, 9:01pm  •  0 vote

Stanmund: yes I meant Anglo-normans or whatever you call William's mates and offspring.

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 19, 2011, 1:58pm  •  0 vote

@Ængelfolc: Anglish as i understand it is a language for "purists". This is fundamentally an emotional decision about who you are - or Anglo-Saxon or Norman-french or Celtic descent - what your herita

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 16, 2011, 8:51pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "Intransitive verbs are the only English verbs that can use their past participles as adjectives" ; a bit too all-embracing, I think. "The swept volume", "The preferred choice", "The man ch

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 14, 2011, 3:09pm  •  0 vote

Stanmund: sorry about the moniker: it was my mother's fault but she's dead now of course. Teach yourself books are usually quite good at explaining things in simple terms, but you don't have to under

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 14, 2011, 3:04pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: re will/would: thanks, what really interests me is when and how "will/would" replaced the german werden for future and conditionals. Was it Danish influence or just the Normans failed to le

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 14, 2011, 12:37am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: I notice that Danish uses "will/would" like English instead of "werden/wuerden" I know that OE still followed German for the passive but what is the story with will/would? Secondly, how i

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 13, 2011, 9:29pm  •  0 vote

Stanmund: Frankly the best way to learn a language is go there, live with a family or something (eg girlfriend), get your listening and pronunciation sorted and learn lots of vocabulary. Get whatever

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 13, 2011, 12:58am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Possibly you are not yet fully aware of how global English is. I have seen companies in Eastern Europe where management speak french or dutch among themselves, the working language is Engli

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 13, 2011, 12:42am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Oh dear, I must have baited you again! I am most penitent. (a nun-ish word) "it is beyond hare-brained to have to learn an outside tongue just to understand the mother-tongue " : well put,

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 12, 2011, 9:38pm  •  0 vote

Today's horror words that I had to explain off the cuff: "ethnographic" from Gk ethnos "nationality" and graphein "to write or draw". "neolithic" (Gk) new + lithos (stone) paleo (gk) I guessed as me

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 12, 2011, 9:32pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "real heritage" : I was teasingly referring to Celtic... I think we could allow them just one or two words borrowed into English..but let's not argue the birthright issue again, eh. Now f

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 12, 2011, 1:34pm  •  0 vote

Teaching a Korean nun: almost my first words were: how much latin do you know? So we moved from "benedictus" to benefit to beneficiary.. Nunc dimittis.....

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 12, 2011, 1:31pm  •  0 vote

I WAS going to suggest "do-er" "do-ee" but realized that with a passive verb the subject is the "do-ee" so the whole concept falls apart. Forgot to mention that! "Carry" apparently comes from "car" w

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 11, 2011, 9:33pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: "Trustee" is a good illustration of how fraught tinkering with language can be. I refer you to the relevant page in wikipedia which contains beautiful norman expressions such as "cestui q

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 10, 2011, 9:32pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Yes indeed I misunderstood you. Trustee: actually my dictionary suggests ce'lvagyonkezeköje but I've never used it. Megbizhatatlan vagy! is useful when your partner is sleeping around. L

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 10, 2011, 4:07pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Trust and transfer have two VERY different meanings when dealing with property. Trustee in hungarian is er, er, er, gondnok I think....

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 10, 2011, 4:04pm  •  0 vote

yes indeed these nine modal verbs are all Germanic. There are other structures that are modal in meaning like "have to" but these modal verbs do not have "s" on the 3rd person singular present. Maybe

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 10, 2011, 1:32pm  •  0 vote

Stanmund: Most homeborn English speaker have little need to learn this terminology. However they are useful when teaching English to other people. Sometimes we can use the term "helping" verb but if

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 9, 2011, 6:44pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: A) When arriving from outer space, the most striking thing about this blue planet is the way in which homo sapiens (?!) has overrun it. As one of the few predators at the top of the pyramid

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 9, 2011, 6:26pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: re szabni (as in szabo a tailor) .. muss aber gestehen dass... actually I know very little Romanian as such, always been more interested in Csango - the kaval, moldvai furulyas, tilinka st

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 9, 2011, 12:57am  •  0 vote

There was a map prepared for the Treaty of Trianon which showed the distribution of languages in "Greater Hungary" at the time. The remarkable feature was how mixed the distributions was,,, and still

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 4, 2011, 9:27pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: besides featuring in the Milosevich, Karadich, Mladic, UN "safe-haven" saga, Sarajevo was also where the European war of 1914 started. It would be nice to think that the EU would forestall

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 4, 2011, 9:21pm  •  0 vote

Guys: surely glee or gloating is good enough in the right context. Ængelfolc: can't practise sidestepping awkward questions without asking awkward questions,

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 4, 2011, 1:49am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Well I must say this column is quite entertaining; I haven't had such linguistic fun since I left skool; thank you. "Soapbox" was in fact forehanded flattery, '"Foot in mouth": -- not at

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 3, 2011, 9:45pm  •  0 vote

Oh and I once vary unwisely asked a guy from the "Middle East" what his wife's name was...

Re: “Anglish”  •  April 3, 2011, 9:41pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: It is a matter of Weltanschauung*. Students from South America, from Russia east of the Urals I think of as having "European" culture, educational background, and attitudes, when compared t

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 29, 2011, 9:59pm  •  0 vote

wlyan138: German or Dutch are both much purer than English, and have some good literature etc, Oder hast Du keine Lust dazu? (Or hast thou no Lust thereto?) Sometimes the virtues of English word ro

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 28, 2011, 8:28pm  •  0 vote

Why is an updated OE word more acceptable than a latinate one? Both are the tongue of immigrants, incomers, overcomers, latecomers, settlers from overseas. The true tongue of Britain is of course Celt

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 27, 2011, 8:05pm  •  0 vote

I always thought the Bayeux Tapestry depicted the UEFA cup finals in 1066, with the English football hooligans singing "you'll never walk alone" upon the terraces, and horseback riders trying to contr

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 25, 2011, 4:37pm  •  0 vote

Harold's death in 1066 cast a long SHADOW over England. That's why the English always carry UMBRELLAS, "lest we forget." On a wet and crowded street, dodging umbrella spokes, spare a thought for 1066

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 23, 2011, 9:31pm  •  0 vote

wlyan138 : you are right on the money in saying that disruptive has a very specific meaing of stalling a process or in my example stopping the progress of a lesson. This is indeed the important point.

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 23, 2011, 1:15am  •  1 vote

"Sorry to break in" is a common enough way of interrupting; in fact break in is in the dictionary as meaning interrupt. You can also use "butt in". We can make nouns like: "Butting-in will not be tol

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 22, 2011, 10:36pm  •  0 vote

So quite clearly Harold Godwin just got his just comeuppance for being less than "Frank"; had he been a little more open, frank and truthful, ..well who knows?

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 22, 2011, 7:54am  •  1 vote

Ængelfolc: We are not necessarily dealing with children. English is used in NATO as a command medium, in medicine, in air traffic control, and in diplomacy, and business generally, especially in multi

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 21, 2011, 9:37pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Fine. The upside to "disruptive" is it describes only the behavior and its consequences and is emotionally neutral, whereas "unruly" and the other anglo-saxon words tend to describe someone

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 21, 2011, 10:58am  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: very good and shows just what can be done. There are great linguistic resources within so-called "phrasal verbs" such as "crowed out" as used. My only comment is some words like "unbridled"

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 20, 2011, 1:27am  •  0 vote

wlyan138: looking on the briteside, 95% of scientific papers are published in English, not Chinese..... there are many people struggling to learn English just to get a job too.

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 19, 2011, 8:41pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Thank you for your comments including all those latinate words; if you do not object I may use it in class- so many "academic" words and such a good topic.

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 19, 2011, 8:28pm  •  0 vote

"if the english had won".....yes indeed; but in fact, in reality, they didn't. The result is that you can write in vaguely Chaucerian English and people will understand you; but if you invent quasi-

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 19, 2011, 4:55pm  •  0 vote

"Old English was SLAUGHTERED...it cannot be accurate, for if it were, we'd all be speaking French." I think we mostly do, looking at all the french and latin borrowings in your reply. Of course there

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 19, 2011, 4:21pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: Na, toll!

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 18, 2011, 11:16pm  •  0 vote

Re: toll as in death toll. I always assumed this was cognate with "Zahl" meaning number in German. And "tell" like "erzaehlen". Am I just plain wrong or merelyl misguided?

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 18, 2011, 11:10pm  •  0 vote

"Hope you understand the bulk of what i just typed, it's all anglish unless i ovelooked something." Nope, beyond me. Tele van a hocipom belole!

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 14, 2011, 8:20pm  •  0 vote

And: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Latinates_of_Germanic_origin All of which suggests to me that it really is hard to guess the true origin of even obviously latinate words. Unless

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 14, 2011, 8:16pm  •  0 vote

Also: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?s=64de6d10338a15b64e6c42cf6b06b951&t=24351

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 14, 2011, 12:45am  •  0 vote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_words_of_Germanic_origin wikipedia....list of french words of germanic origin if you haven't checked it out already

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 14, 2011, 12:44am  •  0 vote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_words_of_Germanic_origin

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 11, 2011, 11:06pm  •  0 vote

If analysis/analyze/analyst/analytical are understood by a billion hominids on this planet, why change? It has the same roots as "on+loosen". Breakdown is similarly widely understood and has an identi

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 10, 2011, 6:53pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: I would take issue with your earlier assertion that old english "fell into disuse" and the "bourgeousie became embarrassed..believing english was vulgar". You seem in danger of swallowing

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 10, 2011, 5:33pm  •  0 vote

Ængelfolc: about the academic word list: www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/academic/ This is the stuff which non-native speakers have to learn. It is mostly very difficult to find real engli

Re: Past Perfect vs. Past Tense  •  March 9, 2011, 4:51pm  •  1 vote

Well it might take you more than a few seconds to tie the rope and pull the car out, so it is more likely that Barry was still in the process of pulling it out, hence "was pulling". Thus "within secon

Re: “Anglish”  •  March 7, 2011, 11:19pm  •  0 vote

If you haven't already done so try: www.plainenglish.co.uk

Re: gifting vs. giving a gift  •  March 6, 2011, 8:17pm  •  1 vote

'Gift' as a verb is regularly used in the legal profession esp in juridicitions where inheritance taxes are significant. Wealthy people set up 'gifting programs' over a period of years to benefit next

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