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Perfect Pedant

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I think the hirsute Caledonian makes a some very good points.
Typically those who cry pedant are also those who would have us deny the influence of the romance languages which lend a great deal of beauty and subtlety to English.
They would have us eschew all change, and all "latrinates" and revert to the "virgin" language which was developed from Friesland. In fact they would have us use Anglish and go around sounding like Wurzel Gummidge or some of the smallfolk from Game of Thrones.
This in itself is a delightful irony since the current day Fresians, in particular Ost Fresians, are the butt of humour throughout modern day Germany.
We even have one or two fans of free spelling and Anglish making use of the tung in this forum. That is something that some may find pretentious, if not amusing.
As Hairy Scot says, they are in their own way just as pedantic and prescriptive as those whom they decry.

For some reason the spell checker in Firefox has flagged the following words as being in error:-
Caledonian latrinates Friesland Anglish smallfolk Fresians

Perfect Pedant October 10, 2012, 11:18am

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@Hairy Scot

English has become like Aussie Rules football.

Rule 1. There are no rules.
Rule 2. See Rule 1.

Perfect Pedant October 7, 2012, 10:09am

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So English is to be just like Aussie Rules Football?

Rule 1: There are no rules.
Rule 2: See Rule 1.

Perfect Pedant October 4, 2012, 7:32pm

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Perfect Pedant September 28, 2012, 1:41pm

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I have in the past carped about the length of your posts.
What I have just read here has definitely modified my view.
A fine and detailed explanation of the subjunctive and its uses.

I too have a knowledge of German, some of which I learned at school and while on assignment in Munich.
Early in my stay Munich, thanks to my undisclosed schoolboy German, I managed to avoid falling into some of the traps that my non-German colleagues delighted in setting for new arrivals from the UK.
One old favourite was to tell the newbies that "Moechtest du bumsen" was how to ask for the time.

Perfect Pedant August 10, 2012, 6:53pm

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I am indeed sceptical and I was neither trolling nor casting aspersions.
There are a number of fora that cater for Anglish and its supporters.
This is a forum about the English language, a language which has been shaped by various sources.IMHO to attempt to eliminate or play down any of those sources is wrong.
All too often the advocates of the Germanic influences dismiss anything outside of that sphere as pedantic or prescriptive and seem to miss the irony of their insistence.

Perfect Pedant July 24, 2012, 1:45pm

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Other languages?

Perfect Pedant July 24, 2012, 1:11pm

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Your use of "In regards, to English ... " certainly illustrates that you are one of those who are too lazy to think of how to properly use the language.

Perfect Pedant July 24, 2012, 12:50pm

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I guarantee that if you go a few miles north to the town of Galashiels and try that pronunciation you will certainly get more than just a few strange looks.

Perfect Pedant July 23, 2012, 1:24pm

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Anglish is probably a diverting hobby for those who are interested in that kind of thing.
While there may be the odd word(s) that could have some relevance to posit Anglish as a resurrection of Olde Englische and as a viable modern tongue is perhaps a bit of a stretch.
It;s occasional use by some posters in this forum has moved on from what was an amusing diversion to pretentious bigotry.
English has been influenced by many different languages. Those who dismiss the influence of Latin and the Romance languages should perhaps relocate to Ost Fresia.

Perfect Pedant July 23, 2012, 12:39pm

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I suppose a lot depends on the context.
For standard everyday use I would prefer "keep in touch" or "get in touch".
When two people are parting company saying "keep in contact" sounds a wee bit stilted.

Perfect Pedant July 18, 2012, 3:45pm

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@D. A. Wood
"Despite the fact that I specifically mentioned New Zealand, Labrador, and the Yukon Territory? "

Probably read from the back of a cereal box.

Perfect Pedant July 12, 2012, 5:38am

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"but" in French is closer to 'bew' than 'boo', so it would be 'daybew' not 'dayboo'.

It's not often the Aussies get it right, but they've got it wrong again.

My god! they can't even get cricket scores the right way round!

Perfect Pedant July 6, 2012, 6:09pm

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Extract from :-
An astonishing amount of print has been devoted to these forms in various style guides and grammars in the past three centuries, with much argument devoted to supporting the from form through logical parallels with other formations. Some writers have argued that as differ must be followed by from, so should different; others have held that as both words begin with the Latin prefix dis-, meaning apart, and apart requires from, “different” must have it too. Attitudes have softened in the past century; authorities now agree that to and even the maligned than have their place.

The problem for conservative arbiters is that all three forms have been used for hundreds of years. Shakespeare is the first writer known to have used different from — before his time unto and to were usual.

Considering how much it has been denigrated, the than form has also been surprisingly common: the first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary more than a century ago gave a long list of good writers who have used it, including Addison, Steele, Richardson, Defoe, Fanny Burney, Coleridge, Southey, De Quincey, Goldsmith, Thackeray, and Carlyle. Eighteenth-century grammarians held that than was always a conjunction and so could not be used as a preposition in a similar way to from and to; that view prevailed, though the opposing opinion was argued forcefully even at the time and is now accepted by all grammarians. Than is still deprecated by many stylists; however, its use with different has long been common in the USA, though almost unknown in the UK. It can be the only good choice when different is followed by a clause (“She had one day hoped for a different lot than to be wedded to a little gentleman who rapped his teeth” — Thackeray, 1848).
The usual advice these days is that from is irreproachable. To is unobjectionable in British English but may need thought if it is to appear in the US. Than is colloquially acceptable — in the USA only — but can be used in more formal prose anywhere if a difficult paraphrase would otherwise result.

And another from :-
different from / different to / different than
deciding which is the proper preposition to use with different gives people a lot of trouble. Here are the rules: use different to or different than when you want to display your ignorance of correct grammar. In all other situations, use different from, because that's the only construction that's correct. Here's a tip that might help you remember: change the adjective different into the verb differ, then apply the words from, to, and than and see which one makes sense. You can differ from someone, for instance; but you can never differ than or to.

Different strokes for different folks!

Perfect Pedant June 5, 2012, 6:26am

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Previous post didn't do to well with tabs.
But the figures show that "from" is favourite.
Have a look here:-

Perfect Pedant June 4, 2012, 1:43pm

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The Collins Cobuild Bank of English shows choice of preposition after "different" is distributed as follows:

"from" "to" "than"
----- ---- ------
U.K. writing 87.6 10.8 1.5
U.K. speech 68.8 27.3 3.9
U.S. writing 92.7 0.3 7.0
U.S. speech 69.3 0.6 30.1

Perfect Pedant June 4, 2012, 1:39pm

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Definition of ACRONYM
: a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term
Definition of MNEMONICS
: a technique of improving the memory
Definition of INITIALISM
: an abbreviation formed from initial letters

Perfect Pedant June 1, 2012, 11:37pm

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There is a world of difference between acronyms, mnemonics, and initials or initialism.

Perfect Pedant June 1, 2012, 2:22pm

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Those of us who hold that the OED is the ultimate authority on the English Language would have to disagree on "conversate" being a word.
However, since "motherfucker" appears in those hallowed pages, I have no doubt that we shall eventually find "conversate" there too.
Probably with the example:- "Yo, I just needs to conversate witcha!"

Perfect Pedant May 15, 2012, 4:02pm

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I think that Hairy Scot got it right with "cacography", and he also gets second prize for "americanism"

@Lee Kay
I think "solecism" is a bit wide of the mark, although in some circles it may well be most appropriate. :-)

Perfect Pedant May 7, 2012, 6:53pm

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