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Hairy Scot

Joined: January 31, 2011
Comments posted: 557
Votes received: 404

Expat Scot now living in NZ. Home town was Greenock. Achieved SCE(H) levels in a number of subjects. Was employed by a multi-national company so spent a fair bit of time in other parts of Europe. Moved to South Africa in 1981 and then to NZ in 2007.

Questions Submitted

Indirect Speech?

June 15, 2016

“Defeat to”

November 2, 2015

“Thanks for that”

January 7, 2015

“Rack” or “Wrack”?

January 2, 2015

3 Laning?

December 8, 2014

“Watching on”?

November 23, 2014

Alternate Prepositions?

April 27, 2014

Mentee?

April 7, 2014

“admits to”

March 11, 2014

Pronunciation of “gill”

January 20, 2014

“You have two choices”

December 9, 2013

Selfie

November 23, 2013

Horizontal Stripes?

November 6, 2013

in that regard

October 12, 2013

“deal to”

February 27, 2013

Preferred forms

January 1, 2013

intend on doing?

December 29, 2012

“in regards to”

October 17, 2012

“it caught on fire”

October 16, 2012

“Liquid water”?

October 12, 2012

“get in contact”

July 11, 2012

“As per ....”?

May 12, 2012

-age words

March 11, 2012

Perpendicular

November 29, 2011

Stood down

August 1, 2011

Signage

February 8, 2011

Recent Comments

How should a waiter or bartender address a customer?
"Do you want .........................?"
or
"Would you like.....................?"

Hairy Scot November 26, 2015, 4:24pm

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@jtu

Your apology is noted.

:-))

Hairy Scot November 23, 2015, 4:20am

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cacography

Hairy Scot November 16, 2015, 10:21pm

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Yes.

Hairy Scot November 15, 2015, 3:08am

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@WW

Once again I must compliment you on your exhaustive research.

:)

Hairy Scot November 10, 2015, 8:49pm

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@jtw
I don't believe that at any point I claimed that the phrase was erroneous, merely that to me it sounds strange.
If or when I shuffle off this mortal coil I can only hope that another grumpy old pedant will spring up and continue to point out examples of strange and/or unusual phrases.
Given the lack of logic in the language I doubt that any kind of empirical measure exists.

Hairy Scot November 6, 2015, 1:12am

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Perhaps I should add that in other contexts the use of "defeat to" may well not sound wrong, but in the example I quoted I think it does.

Hairy Scot November 4, 2015, 4:48pm

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@jayles
Sorry, but "defeat to" falls hard upon my elderly ears, and thole it I will not.

Hairy Scot November 4, 2015, 4:45pm

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Dyske omitted the line about my donning the grumpy pedant cap for this topic.

:-))

Hairy Scot November 3, 2015, 5:04pm

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@jayles

Sent email to NSCB.
Secretary has responded saying she will forward mail to all band members.

Hairy Scot October 17, 2015, 1:24am

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@jayles

Unfortunately I am otherwise engaged on Saturday, but I would welcome the chance to meet you if you happen to have further engagements in the area.

Hairy Scot October 16, 2015, 9:17pm

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@jayles

The horror that is Panglish is just around the corner.
I just hope that I will have met the grim reaper before it becomes the norm.

Hairy Scot October 15, 2015, 12:51am

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I forgot to add "reach out to" being used as an alternative for "contact".

Hairy Scot October 13, 2015, 6:40pm

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Unfortunately jargon, or "management speak" as some call it, has become all common and has spread from business to everyday use.
Phrases like "keep me updated", "keep me apprised", "at the end of the day", "take under advisement", and "going forward", occasionally have me tearing out what little hair I have left.
One can add to that the use of "-age" words as plurals; for example using signage as the plural of sign.
(It has been given a red line by my Google Chrome spell check).

Hairy Scot October 13, 2015, 6:39pm

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@WW

Here in the antipodes I am sure there will always be some aspect of language use about which I can rant.
Perhaps I should shut off the sound when I watch sport on television.
But perhaps, as TV commentators are wont to say, I may have already alluded to that.

:-))

Hairy Scot October 13, 2015, 6:25pm

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It could of course be argued that there are occasions when "this Wednesday" and "next Wednesday" might refer to the same day.
However, in my experience "this Wednesday" refers to the Wednesday in the current week regardless of whether it has yet to come or has in fact passed, "next Wednesday" refers to the Wednesday of the coming week, and "last Wednesday" refers to the Wednesday of the previous week.

Hairy Scot October 13, 2015, 6:20pm

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@WW
"But that doesn't mean we say them like that."
Saying dates like that has become very common here in NZ. Especially on television and radio.

It's been a while since I wore my grumpy old pedant hat, so I felt constrained to find something about which to bitch!

:-))

Hairy Scot October 9, 2015, 1:15am

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IMHO you are correct.

Hairy Scot October 4, 2015, 11:06pm

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The use of "wait on" in the context you describe is quite common in Scotland and, I am given to understand, in the southern states of the USA.
I'm not sure in which other regions it might be common, but its usage does seem to have become acceptable.
Purists and pedants may cringe but common usage will always be the final arbiter.
While I rarely use the phrase, I see nothing wrong in its use as an alternative to "wait for".

Hairy Scot August 30, 2015, 11:47pm

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I get tense just thinking about it.

Hairy Scot August 8, 2015, 4:34am

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