“graduated high school” or “graduated from high school”?
Is it really proper to say “I graduated high school,” or should it not be, “I graduated from high school?” Previously, I thought only rednecks were able to “graduate high school.”
Re: "February 10th, 2011 by Alyson Draper Is it really proper to say “I graduated high school,” or should it not be, “I graduated from high school?” Previously, I thought only rednecks were able to “graduate high school.”
Actually, I do not believe a true redneck would have reason to use either expression!
"I was graduated from high school/college" is the proper grammar. This was taught years ago and was an attempt to correct students from saying "I graduated from high school/college". Unfortunately, this "correction" morphed into "I graduated high school/college" which is even worst than what was originally being corrected!!!
I think "I graduated high school" is now so widely used as to have become correct idiomatic American English. It may depart from the usual grammatical rules, but English is full of idioms that do that.
"I graduated high school" simply sounds too stupid to be accepted as tolerable idomatic American English. "To graduate" means "to be granted an academic degree or diploma." To say: "I was granted a diploma high school" would be moronic.
I'll not accept, without a fight, dumbing down the language that badly.
graduate 1 [no object] successfully complete an academic degree, course of training, or (North American) high school: he graduated from Glasgow University in 1990 http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gradua...
As an update on this topic, at today's NBC News site I found these two headlines on the front page: "As their children graduate college...." and "Teen who lost mom in tornado graduates from high school". So today's copy editors randomly use one or the other (I've seen the same thing in newspapers). I would use the "from" version myself, but as time passes and I see more and more that omitted I fear the idiom is becoming ingrained. Can full acceptance be far behind?
@wes - that only makes sense if you don't pronounce the H - do you really say 'orrific? And I'm sure you don't say 'igh school, unless you're a Cockney.
To give a British perspective, for us it's exactly as AnWulf has said - always "from", and the student always graduates from the school/universit, never vise-versa. The idea of the school/university graduating the student seems only to exist in North American English.
For what it's worth, it's nice to see that Grammar Girl agrees with those of us who see "from" as essential for good English: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/graduated-... (" If you go around saying you graduated college, you sound illiterate. The correct way to say it is that you graduated FROM college.")
@providencejim - Yes, I nearly linked to that one myself; it's not often Mignon Fogarty gets in that much of a tizz about something. But there's no real reason why an intransitive verb can't turn into a transitive one; it's no doubt happened plenty of times before, although I can't think of any examples off the top of my head. After all, we change plenty of nouns into transitive verbs - "to access files", "to input data" etc. (I draw the line, however, at "We need to decision this"). But as you say, only time will tell
delores.sheppard
February 11, 2011, 4:41pm
In proper English, it should be "graduate from."
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parker.sheppard
February 14, 2011, 1:18pm
Actually, the school graduates you, so it should be "I was graduated from high school."
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cgtay33
February 19, 2011, 7:58pm
To graduate is successfully complete an academic course—in this case, high school. In formal English, it is "graduated from high school".
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shaunc
February 21, 2011, 4:19am
Re: "February 10th, 2011 by Alyson Draper
Is it really proper to say “I graduated high school,” or should it not be, “I graduated from high school?” Previously, I thought only rednecks were able to “graduate high school.”
Actually, I do not believe a true redneck would have reason to use either expression!
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Jonno Revanche
April 3, 2011, 7:06pm
I agree
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Gina (unregistered)
April 20, 2011, 4:55am
Shaun C, that was a good one ;-)
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Jane (unregistered)
May 15, 2011, 9:04am
"I was graduated from high school/college" is the proper grammar. This was taught years ago and was an attempt to correct students from saying "I graduated from high school/college". Unfortunately, this "correction" morphed into "I graduated high school/college" which is even worst than what was originally being corrected!!!
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Jane (unregistered)
May 15, 2011, 9:09am
Oops! That should be "worse" instead of "worst".
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nigel
June 17, 2011, 5:46pm
I think "I graduated high school" is now so widely used as to have become correct idiomatic American English. It may depart from the usual grammatical rules, but English is full of idioms that do that.
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bobbbfhsgßΩµ
August 19, 2011, 9:31am
"I graduated high school" simply sounds too stupid to be accepted as tolerable idomatic American English. "To graduate" means "to be granted an academic degree or diploma." To say: "I was granted a diploma high school" would be moronic.
I'll not accept, without a fight, dumbing down the language that badly.
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Cameron (unregistered)
December 1, 2011, 4:43am
Bob, your opinion is invalid based solely on the name you chose to represent yourself.
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Bob Bowman
March 10, 2012, 5:30pm
Publish 1950 graduating class from Davenport High School
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AnWulf
March 14, 2012, 11:34am
graduate
1 [no object] successfully complete an academic degree, course of training, or (North American) high school: he graduated from Glasgow University in 1990 http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gradua...
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wes
May 23, 2012, 2:01pm
what about "an"high school education rather than "a" high school education.
Like an horrific dream ...
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providencejim
May 26, 2013, 10:31am
As an update on this topic, at today's NBC News site I found these two headlines on the front page: "As their children graduate college...." and "Teen who lost mom in tornado graduates from high school". So today's copy editors randomly use one or the other (I've seen the same thing in newspapers). I would use the "from" version myself, but as time passes and I see more and more that omitted I fear the idiom is becoming ingrained. Can full acceptance be far behind?
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Warsaw Will
May 26, 2013, 12:43pm
@wes - that only makes sense if you don't pronounce the H - do you really say 'orrific? And I'm sure you don't say 'igh school, unless you're a Cockney.
To give a British perspective, for us it's exactly as AnWulf has said - always "from", and the student always graduates from the school/universit, never vise-versa. The idea of the school/university graduating the student seems only to exist in North American English.
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Warsaw Will
May 26, 2013, 12:44pm
Oops! - university, vice versa
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providencejim
May 26, 2013, 5:21pm
For what it's worth, it's nice to see that Grammar Girl agrees with those of us who see "from" as essential for good English: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/graduated-... (" If you go around saying you graduated college, you sound illiterate. The correct way to say it is that you graduated FROM college.")
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Warsaw Will
May 27, 2013, 1:52am
@providencejim - Yes, I nearly linked to that one myself; it's not often Mignon Fogarty gets in that much of a tizz about something. But there's no real reason why an intransitive verb can't turn into a transitive one; it's no doubt happened plenty of times before, although I can't think of any examples off the top of my head. After all, we change plenty of nouns into transitive verbs - "to access files", "to input data" etc. (I draw the line, however, at "We need to decision this"). But as you say, only time will tell
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kjjh
June 12, 2013, 2:24pm
I graduated my high school once with some paint. That was before I graduated from there though.
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