Submitted by richie  •  May 26, 2009

“independence from” or “independence to”?

I have a feeling I’ll look at this again in a while and find the answer screamingly obvious. Do these parallel the form of “independent” exactly? As “independence of” seems really wrong, though “independent of” seems ok. I’m confused.

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"Independence from."

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+1

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"independence of": John declares the independence of John Republic.

"independence from": The union, though weak and poor, managed to remain their independence from other big, influential interest groups.

Can you sense the difference there?

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Regarding: "The union, though weak and poor, managed to remain their independence from other big, influential interest groups."

This isn't quite right. I would suggest that it should be either "...maintained their independence from..." or "...remained independent from..."

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Oops, wrong tense. That's ...maintain...remain..., no "-ed" at the end.

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1) <em>Argentina gained independence <strong>from</strong> Spain in 1816.</em> (New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition. © 2005 by Oxford University Press, Inc.)

2) <em>independence <strong>of</strong> irrelevant alternatives; independence <strong>of</strong> random variables</em>

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independence FROM {named object}
independence OF {subject}, no named object that subject is independent from; general idea of independence meant.
Or as the irregular verb bashers would have it, "meaned." (joke)

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also
The union, though weak and poor, managed to remain their

1- remain may be a typo for RETAIN?
2- THEIR is not allowable here since it is not the union and something else, e.g. the army. Therefore THEIR must be ITS to match the singular subject.

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