Both motive and motivation basically mean incentive or drive.
However, in English, most commonly people say "What are his MOTIVES." When "motives" is used rather than "motivation" it implies "ulterior motives", such as those for suspicious actions.
For example, in a murder trial, the lawyer will discuss the suspect's possible motives for committing the crime. In general "motives" has a negative connotation, whereas "motivation" has a positive one.
Generally (but not all the time - wonderful language English hey!) I would perceive motivation to be more positive, with motives being used where you are trying to analyse someone's angle... sorry i've not expressed very clearly what I mean...DOH!
In my opinion neither of these words has to have a bad/good connotation attached to it. That is certainly not the difference Motives are the specific reasons for performing a specific action. e.g. I killed Brian to get revenge on him for cheating with my wife. (motive revenge)
Motivation is more what drives you, at a deeper level, to 'want' to do a certain action, or more commonly a longer lasting project or job. e.g. I became a vet so that I could help relieve suffering in animals (motivation: to relieve suffering in animals)
Motivation may often be confused in some cases with motive, but they are distinct, in correct English.
The negative connotation attached to motive is probably because it is often used in a TV/film crime situation to understand why a crime is committed or who might want to do it.
The only context in which I can see both terms arising near eachother would be in storytelling. If an actor, with only a page of a script, must perform an act that fits into the story. The director must provide him with motivation for the action, must supply a motive, a reason for the act.
Without such direction the actor might be at a loss or forced to rely on personal experience to place the action into a context that allows its performance. If the internal motivation for the action is wrong, the director might ask "Why did you do this this way? What was your motive?" and then supply a more appropriate context within the production, the motivation needed to provide the act validity in the continuum of the envisioned piece. I do not believe either word really has a connotation that is positive or negative in general use, each refers to an aspect of an action. This suggests they are neutral descriptives.
Motivation can also mean "the act of motivating", where "motive" cannot. Compare, "oxygen, oxygenate, oxygenation" (or many other similar examples) with "motive, motivate, motivation". With this in mind, I would suggest that motive and motivation might not really be synonyms. Say, I get an apartment. My motive may be to be comfortable and protected from the elements. My motivation may be my parent's throwing me out of the house!
To put it another way, from the American Heritage dictionary:
Motivation: 1 - The act or process of motivating. 2 - The state of being motivated. 3 - Something that motivates; an inducement or incentive.
Motive: 1 - An emotion, desire, physiological need, or similar impulse that acts as an incitement to action.
(From dictionary.com) a motive is something that causes someone to act in a certain way, do a certain thing, etc.
Motivation definition 3 is symonymous with motive; a motive is something that motivates, but motivation is a broader word since not everything that motivates is a motive.
A motive is defined as a relatively stable disposition to strive for rather general kinds of goal objects. --- In contrast to the construct of motive, motivation refers to a temporarily aroused stated, produced when the cues of a situation elicit an expectancy of goal attainment which engages the motive. Motivation is thus a tendency to perform an act and is a joint function of the motive of the individual and the expectancy or cognition that appropriate instrumenatl behavior will provide satisfying consequences.
Ref. H.Helson & W.Bevan (Eds.),Contemporary Approaches to psychology.Princeton NJ:Van Nostrand.1967.261.
purpledragon_13
December 11, 2002, 8:31am
Both motive and motivation basically mean incentive or drive.
However, in English, most commonly people say "What are his MOTIVES." When "motives" is used rather than "motivation" it implies "ulterior motives", such as those for suspicious actions.
For example, in a murder trial, the lawyer will discuss the suspect's possible motives for committing the crime. In general "motives" has a negative connotation, whereas "motivation" has a positive one.
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Merge (unregistered)
December 16, 2002, 1:10am
Generally (but not all the time - wonderful language English hey!) I would perceive motivation to be more positive, with motives being used where you are trying to analyse someone's angle... sorry i've not expressed very clearly what I mean...DOH!
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Limey (unregistered)
December 17, 2002, 7:44am
In my opinion neither of these words has to have a bad/good connotation attached to it.
That is certainly not the difference
Motives are the specific reasons for performing a specific action.
e.g. I killed Brian to get revenge on him for cheating with my wife. (motive revenge)
Motivation is more what drives you, at a deeper level, to 'want' to do a certain action, or more commonly a longer lasting project or job.
e.g. I became a vet so that I could help relieve suffering in animals (motivation: to relieve suffering in animals)
Motivation may often be confused in some cases with motive, but they are distinct, in correct English.
The negative connotation attached to motive is probably because it is often used in a TV/film crime situation to understand why a crime is committed or who might want to do it.
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bobbygeorge31
January 18, 2003, 11:54am
Motive = "motive for doing" (specific)
Motivation = "motivation in doing" (general)
IMHO, Limey put it nicely! Merge is speaking more about the connotations of the words, insightful stuff but not related to the quesition I think.
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owl (unregistered)
March 19, 2003, 5:54pm
Providing someone with a motive for some action is motivation. Motive is the cause, motivation is being caused, or causing.
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esc6574
June 1, 2003, 3:06pm
The only context in which I can see both terms arising near eachother would be in storytelling.
If an actor, with only a page of a script, must perform an act that fits into the story. The director must provide him with motivation for the action, must supply a motive, a reason for the act.
Without such direction the actor might be at a loss or forced to rely on personal experience to place the action into a context that allows its performance.
If the internal motivation for the action is wrong, the director might ask "Why did you do this this way? What was your motive?" and then supply a more appropriate context within the production, the motivation needed to provide the act validity in the continuum of the envisioned piece.
I do not believe either word really has a connotation that is positive or negative in general use, each refers to an aspect of an action. This suggests they are neutral descriptives.
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M Stevenson (unregistered)
April 11, 2004, 3:57am
'"motives" has a negative connotation, whereas "motivation" has a positive one.'
Correct.
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Cathy (unregistered)
September 5, 2006, 1:19pm
Motivation is the desire of the person to do something, while motives are the reasons for performing a an action.
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porsche
September 5, 2006, 5:19pm
Motivation can also mean "the act of motivating", where "motive" cannot. Compare, "oxygen, oxygenate, oxygenation" (or many other similar examples) with "motive, motivate, motivation". With this in mind, I would suggest that motive and motivation might not really be synonyms. Say, I get an apartment. My motive may be to be comfortable and protected from the elements. My motivation may be my parent's throwing me out of the house!
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porsche
September 5, 2006, 5:42pm
To put it another way, from the American Heritage dictionary:
Motivation:
1 - The act or process of motivating.
2 - The state of being motivated.
3 - Something that motivates; an inducement or incentive.
Motive:
1 - An emotion, desire, physiological need, or similar impulse that acts as an incitement to action.
(From dictionary.com) a motive is something that causes someone to act in a certain way, do a certain thing, etc.
Motivation definition 3 is symonymous with motive; a motive is something that motivates, but motivation is a broader word since not everything that motivates is a motive.
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jack chang (unregistered)
October 18, 2007, 12:24am
A motive is defined as a relatively stable disposition to strive for rather general kinds of goal objects.
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In contrast to the construct of motive, motivation refers to a temporarily aroused stated, produced when the cues of a situation elicit an expectancy of goal attainment which engages the motive. Motivation is thus a tendency to perform an act and is a joint function of the motive of the individual and the expectancy or cognition that appropriate instrumenatl behavior will provide satisfying consequences.
Ref.
H.Helson & W.Bevan (Eds.),Contemporary
Approaches to psychology.Princeton NJ:Van Nostrand.1967.261.
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christy
February 10, 2012, 9:07am
Jack ...you are precise...to the point!
As Heinz Heckhausen and Kuhl would say...
in their pedagogical theory on the model of rubicon
Motive is a stable disposition that effects a process of action, structured and ordered.
Motivation is a process that establishes itself in a particular interaction of a person with the person's ambience or context or situation or need.
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christo
April 8, 2013, 3:38am
Motive are expectation that leads an organism to stick to a gaol.
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