Correspondence

Um, correspondence would be single. If there are more than 1, you would have to add an 's' to make it plural... Correspondences.

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Porshe-

Couldn't it be like "fish," though? That is, the plural of fish is fish, but when you are talking about many different species, you say fishes. So, doesn't correspondence work the same way? Several different letter exchanges could be separate correspondences.

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Sorry, no it couldn't be like that. The word correspondences doesn't exist. Correspondence refers to the process of writing letters whether one writes one or many. It looks singular but is a collective noun.

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Janet-

I'm going to disagree with you on this one. I think correspondence can be either a count or collective noun depending on what the speaker is intending. For example, while it sounds better (in my opinion) to simply use the verb "correspond", as in "I corresponded with him," I don't see why you couldn't say grammatically "I had a correspondence with him." The latter sentence makes a subtle aspectual departure from the former, meaning it is useful, and it expresses the noun "correspondence" as a singular count noun. If you can have singular count nouns, then you can pluralize them: "I had several correspondences with various people." What's wrong with that? Sounds fine to me.

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Addendum: water can also be a count noun, as in "the murky waters of the Sea of Blahblahblah."

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If I had to hazard a guess, I would say correspondence is usually an uncountable noun like fruit, content, water, etc. but when making a distinction between different types a plural 's' is introduced. For example, you might usually say "I ate a lot of fruit this morning," rather than "I ate many fruits this morning," but "Fruits and vegetables are high in vitamins." Or, "That magazine packs in a lot of content for your buck," but "Please empty the contents of your bag."

I don't think it would be incorrect to say, "Organizing the week's correspondences is a tedious task."

Sorry for the mediocre examples.

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Interesting, AO. I don't think the fish analogy works completely, but there are certainly mass nouns that do make sense to use in the plural, like waters, as you mentioned. I'm not sure I can think of a case where "correspondences" would work better than just plain old "correspondence". Try comparing it to the word "mail". For what it's worth, at least at dictionary.com, there is no listing for the plural at all. I could imagine two or more distinct groups of correspondence being referred to as correspondences, but I'm not sure. If I had two piles of mail, I would still have only more mail, not mails.

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I would classify "correspondence", in the sense above, as a non-countable noun. I think "correspondences" might be usable in some circumstances, but I can't think of any in which it would be preferable to "correspondence".

Certain words, like "equipment", have no plural form at all.

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Ok, so I'm going to posit that English has, in addition to count and mass nouns, mass nouns that can be used as count nouns. I'm pretty sure we are all agreed on this. The question is which of these "correspondence" falls into. Certainly not a count noun, so it's between a mass noun and a mass noun that can be counted. I say it's the latter but most say it's the former. My evidence for my claim is admittedly pretty bad: my intuition as a native English speaker. I wonder if my sense of this word is regional, sociolectic, or what have you. Can anyone give some solid evidence (other than it just "sounding right") for one claim or the other? I'm curious about this. Thanks.

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Let's first put aside the use of "correspondence" to mean "connection," as in "the correspondences between German and English prove that English is a Teutonic language at heart." In that sense, the plural with "s" is necessary and proper.

Turning to "correspondence" in the sense of "one or more exchanges of written communication," I think the use of the plural would be rare, but when needed, justified. "The Boston Tea Party led to the famous correspondence between Washington and Jefferson, but many such correspondences sprang up between pairs of famous men in the wake of that notorious event."

Maybe we can say that one uses the plural only to emphasize the particularity of a set of exchanges.

"We had a heated correspondence for several months in 2000-2001 about Bush's election (or Gore's election, if you will), and another, briefer correspondence in 2004-2005, after Kerry went down in flames. Both correspondences were published together in book form in 2006."

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Xavier-

Great examples! Thanks! Can I ask where the quotes are coming from?

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i think correspondence can be used in both singular and plural sense. As an example given in Oxford advanced learner's Dictionary "The editor welcomes correspondence from readers on any subject", it is used in plural sense.

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Actually, if we look up at dictionaries we find that "fish" can be both countable and uncountable. "Correspondence", on the other hand, is just defined as uncountable. I really don't know frequently people use "correspondences" so that we could admit the emergence of a new rule. I mean, if the use is widespread and common, then we could possibly admit that in the future the word would be registered in dictionaries as countable and uncountable. So, it is a matter to see how frequently the "countable version" is used.

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I have checked several references on usage and style regarding this issue (Bryan Garner, James Kilpatrick, Morton Freeman, and several dictionaries). None were definitive. AO gave an example and asked "What's wrong with that?" My answer: it is an uncommon form of usage and is stilted, bulky, multisyllabic, and will cause readers to balk and/or re-read the sentence. You should not be writing in a manner that causes those reactions in your readers. While "correspondences" may not be technically incorrect (although I personally agree with the many contributors who said the noun is both singular and plural [it is perfectly acceptable to say or write, eg.: "How many different fish are there?]), it should be avoided. If that word does not fit your sentence structure, change the structure to accommodate the use of "correspondence" or use a different noun, e.g.: communications, letters, notes, emails, or other, more precise, (and plural) noun. Sorry I'm so late to your party, here. The subject just arose with my assistant and I was struggling to find authority to back up my preferred usage.

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Depends on personal preference and how the person sees things, emphasizing the action (exchange) or the object (letter)

-correspondence = an exchange of a letter
-correspondence = the collection of letters over one or more exchanges
-correspondences = multiple exchanges (of many letters)
-correspondences = countably many letters over one or more exchanges

To be clear, use "a series of correspondences," where "series" in such contexts is always plural.

Just say "letters" and get it over with. She would say, "I'm working on multiple letters." And the memo would reflect that "The letters will be sent out NLT Friday," which is simple and clear, as opposed "The correspondences will be sent out NLT Friday."

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Re: Porsche's comment back in June 2007:

As far as "mail" goes, it turns out that the English word "mail" gets borrowed by a bunch of other languages (I know of French, Hebrew, and to an extent, Japanese) in order to signify "email," as distinct from the given language's word for "mail." The word gets used in a countable sense, as "email" (like "letter(s)") is a count noun. This is just an aside, of course, as, you're certainly correct, we don't do this in English. Mail is mail, even when there's a lot if it. But the word "email," formally deriving from "mail," can be counted! "Did you get my email? Did you get both my emails?" Funny stuff..

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Who really gives a @#$*!!! Anyone who calls you on such a stupid technicality has issues.

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Obviously Andrew Clay is vocabulary-challenged.

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TO Mr.Clay I guess I am one of those individuals then. after reading these comments I am even more confused about the subject .However, I think I will use the good old premise that this word can be used as group or collective noun.

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Clearly, the water example is not a perfect example, and may illustrate that correspondences is proper.

In fact, however, it may be more appropriate to add an apostrophe because it eliminates this confusion. As in with odd nouns like X410's. or PC's.

Correspondence's. Yes: This makes grammar people annoyed.

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I have an additional question in regards to the correspondence question, the phrase "Please find attached a correspondence from Mr. Smith." vs. "Please find attached correspondence from Mr. Smith". In the sense that correspondence is both a singular and plural noun, would the use of "a" be justified in distinguishing the singular correspondence from two or more correspondence? Would this also apply to the phrase "I bought a fish from the store" to distinguish from buying more than one fish?

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I am with lastronin.

Many letters are correspondence (mass noun, taking no article and no pluralization). However, an exchange of letters between two people or on a particular topic is a correspondence (note the indefinite article) and several such exchanges would be several correspondences.

I have always assumed that there is no real difference between "fish" as a plural and "fishes." You can use whichever you like. As for "waters," isn't it just one of those odd idioms that get used in a limited number of special expressions like "the waters of Babylon," or going to the spa to "take the waters." It is not clear to me that it functions as a plural at all. Rather it seems to carry the implication that the water is special or exotic in some way.

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What about: "In the event of termination of your contract with our company, you agree to deliver promptly to the company all equipment, materials, software, programs, source codes, diskettes, documents, memorandum, notes, reports, correspondence/ correspondences, lists and the like to the company."
What would it be?

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correspondences, with an s, because you are talking about THIS correspondence and THAT correspondence, individual units. If you are able to substitute it for the word "communication" as a concept, you would use correspondence.

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ULTIMATELY: Please read in its entirety the entry by xavier_onassis, whose example is so far the best. Based upon the original question, xavier has provided several examples that effectively communicate the usage of the word correspondence with or without its plural form, in both the non-countable sense, and a clearly defined plural noun form. It is not impossible to have a plural of the word correspondence, unless you are referring to letters, mail, etc., and not to the "noun" form of the "verb" to correspond, which obviously has a plural form, if you are referring to multiple cases of somethings or someones corresponding to any number of somethings or someones. (Please indulge me in my use of something and someone in pluralities, as they seem to befit the current topic, although also adding to the general pandemonious chatter)

(Please also indulge me in my use of "pluralities" - as it seems the most fitting word, but, again, it does seem to invoke a sort of ironic havoc upon our discussion)

HOWEVER: Let us take a step back and remind ourselves of both the original question and the majority usage of the word correspondence:

"The House of Parliament acknowledges receipt of correspondence dated July 4, 1776, wherein it is requested that the Sovereignty of the British Commonwealth respond to the previously addressed concerns of mistreatments, misrepresentations, oppressions and general malfeasance, by recognizing the newly-founding peoples in the British-occupied regions of North America, specifically along the North-Eastern portions North of Mexico and South of Canada, as a free and independent Republic, under its own bona fide Sovereignty."

Even if the example were to include the DATE of EVERY OTHER letter, writing, newspaper clipping, or otherwise "correspondence" that was addressed to George III, or the House of Parliament - the word would remain a non-countable, "mass" if you will, word under this context, which is the most generally used and common occasion for the use of this word.

It would never read:

"The Office of King George III, Sovereign over all British Peoples and Nations, acknowledges receipt of correspondences dated 4 July 1776, 17 September 1787, etc. Dot Dot Dot, you get the idea...."

NOR SHOULD it read:

"The Office of King George III, Sovereign over all British Peoples and Nations, acknowledges receipt of a correspondence...."
NOR:
"The Office of King George III, Sovereign over all British Peoples and Nations, acknowledges receipt of the correspondence...."
The example (regarding Boston Tea Party influenced correspondences) that xavier uses, however, does still have the implication of "connections" and not strictly discussing letters, but many letters of "COMMUNICATION" between people, thus multple communications between multiple parties would be just as easily written communication, or correspondence, as it would communications, or correspondences. It is not really describing the letters or mail themselves/itself; rather, it is describing the intangible connection that these letters created, thus you can have plural of such intangible connections.

THERFORE: In this case, "Who's right?": You. In this usage of the word, you would do well to not dilute the general English speaking public with adding an 's' to the end of the word, even when plural letters may be described. It is still "correspondence" - with no 's' at the end. In this case, your co-worker is not describing her correspondence correctly if he/she is describing any number, singular or plural, of letters or mail, etc., etc., as correspondences.

BUT: Your co-worker is actually correct, though indirectly - benefiting from circumstantial accuracy on a subject they, perhaps, have not understood prior to making their assertion.

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Forgive me, I should add that "lastronin" [of whose ceased indentured servitude's validity I question... :P ;-) ] has also made a very helpful and description; however, I question the use of "correspondences" as referencing plural letters over one or more exchanges, just as he put so well: "Just say 'letters'," and get on with it.
I questions this BECAUSE there IS a REASON you should just say letters: The letters are the letters, and the act of corresponding is not directly relevant to the number of letters. It isn't necessarily wrong, with this I agree whole-heartedly; however, it is usually USED incorrectly, and therefore: "A WITCH"

Thank you, lastronin for encouraging us to "get on with it."

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Lastronin and Wordsmithy, why advise people to say letters when they intend correspondences? While all letters are correspondences, not all correspondences are letters.

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