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“His being chosen” vs. “His having been chosen”

May 30th, 2010 by Lai Chen Siang

“His being chosen as a headmaster have surprised us.”

Is the sentence above right? Do I have to change the gerund to:

“His having been chosen as a headmaster have surprised us.”

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5 Responses to ““His being chosen” vs. “His having been chosen””

  1. In either case the verb for should be “…has surprised us.” However, here’s how I’d write the sentence for clarity and concisesness:

    “His selection as headmaster surprised us.”

    Current score: 3
  2. Except that says:

    “His selection as headmaster surprised us” could be interpreted as “[The person that he chose] as headmaster surprised us.” It’s ok if there is no ambiguity in the context, though.

    The clearest option is to make it active voice: “We were surprised that he was chosen as a headmaster.”

    Current score: 1
  3. Jo Hawke says:

    @Except that said: “We were surprised that he was chosen as a headmaster.”
    ~~~~~~

    While this option is clearer, it’s actually passive voice since “we” are the receivers of the action “surprised,” rather than the doers.

    There is nothing at all wrong with saying, “His being chosen as headmaster surprised us.” The gerund phrase, “being chosen,” is the subject of the sentence, which is why the pronoun must be “his” instead of “him”; “his” is an adjective describing the subject.

    Current score: 1
  4. David says:

    The simple ,the better, I think,

    Current score: 0
  5. DeMisty says:

    Both sentences seem very passive to me. I think I’d prefer a very apparent, active subject (we, because being surprised is the important word here, right?). Also, as David said, simplest is best.

    I don’t think Except is wrong in stating that “We were surprised that he was chosen” is more active. “Surprised” is a state of being–more like a noun than a verb–not an action. “Were” is the verb in that suggested sentence, and surprised here is an adjective (modifying we).

    Please, correct me if I’m wrong!

    Current score: 0

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