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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://painintheenglish.com/?p=501&#038;cpage=1#comment-11555</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/department/docs/punctuation/node16.html#SECTION00051000000000000000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt;, capitalization following a colon is considered acceptable in America, but (aside from proper names or the like) not in England. I rather think, though, that even in America it is only OK if the part after the colon is a grammatically complete sentence.

Dresden: Many excellent writers thoroughly despise &lt;i&gt;Strunk &amp; White&lt;/i&gt;. They think it is full of horrible advice, and is far too prescriptive, although I doubt that any would claim that every bit of advice therein is bad. Certainly it is sensible to pick and choose.

As for the Chicago Manual, that is not just advice. If you are writing something to be published by University of Chicago Press, or another publisher that uses Chicago style, you &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to do things their way. However, it does not follow that their way is better, and other publishers may insist on something different (or may trust the author&#039;s judgement).

You are right about the dash, though. It is not a good thing to overuse.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11555&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/department/docs/punctuation/node16.html#SECTION00051000000000000000" rel="nofollow">this site</a>, capitalization following a colon is considered acceptable in America, but (aside from proper names or the like) not in England. I rather think, though, that even in America it is only OK if the part after the colon is a grammatically complete sentence.</p>
<p>Dresden: Many excellent writers thoroughly despise <i>Strunk &amp; White</i>. They think it is full of horrible advice, and is far too prescriptive, although I doubt that any would claim that every bit of advice therein is bad. Certainly it is sensible to pick and choose.</p>
<p>As for the Chicago Manual, that is not just advice. If you are writing something to be published by University of Chicago Press, or another publisher that uses Chicago style, you <i>have</i> to do things their way. However, it does not follow that their way is better, and other publishers may insist on something different (or may trust the author&#8217;s judgement).</p>
<p>You are right about the dash, though. It is not a good thing to overuse.
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		<title>By: Dresden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dresden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is informative enough that I may just bookmark it.

I take issue to someone&#039;s stating: &quot;The Elements of Style is a good book, but the CMoS is a higher authority.&quot;

While this may literally be the case; the literary community commonly accepts TEoS, and it is recommended reading in a lot of cases.

I have had instructors attempt to teach some of Strunk &amp; White, picking and choosing, while disregarding the rest. I believe this is foolhardy; one should stick to a manual of style either wholly or not at all. One should choose the accepted manual that best fits their own style.

So again, to the original poster:

It is a matter of style.

I would much prefer an auteur misusing a device, as long as they are consistent, to an auteur overusing a device.

My girlfriend reads the &quot;Twilight&quot; series, and is often confused by a classic Stephanie Meyer usage of the dash. It may just be my bias, I hate to use dashes, but Stephanie is murdering the dash throughout her series.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11550&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is informative enough that I may just bookmark it.</p>
<p>I take issue to someone&#8217;s stating: &#8220;The Elements of Style is a good book, but the CMoS is a higher authority.&#8221;</p>
<p>While this may literally be the case; the literary community commonly accepts TEoS, and it is recommended reading in a lot of cases.</p>
<p>I have had instructors attempt to teach some of Strunk &amp; White, picking and choosing, while disregarding the rest. I believe this is foolhardy; one should stick to a manual of style either wholly or not at all. One should choose the accepted manual that best fits their own style.</p>
<p>So again, to the original poster:</p>
<p>It is a matter of style.</p>
<p>I would much prefer an auteur misusing a device, as long as they are consistent, to an auteur overusing a device.</p>
<p>My girlfriend reads the &#8220;Twilight&#8221; series, and is often confused by a classic Stephanie Meyer usage of the dash. It may just be my bias, I hate to use dashes, but Stephanie is murdering the dash throughout her series.
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		<title>By: azigay</title>
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		<dc:creator>azigay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was so helpful! Thank you all.   :)&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11187&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was so helpful! Thank you all.   :)
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena, Thanks, that&#039;s nice of you to say.

I was re-reading Strunk and White&#039;s &quot;The Elemsnts of Style&quot; and found the following entry for &#039;while&#039; in the chapter &quot;Misused Words and Expressions&quot;:


&quot;While. Avoid the indiscriminate use of this word for and, but, and although. Many writers use it frequently as a substitute for and or but, either from a mere desire
to vary the connective, or from uncertainty which of the two connectives is the more appropriate. In this use it is best replaced by a semicolon.&quot;


That&#039;s good punctuation advice, even if it does &quot;bury the lead.&quot;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10912&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lena, Thanks, that&#8217;s nice of you to say.</p>
<p>I was re-reading Strunk and White&#8217;s &#8220;The Elemsnts of Style&#8221; and found the following entry for &#8216;while&#8217; in the chapter &#8220;Misused Words and Expressions&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;While. Avoid the indiscriminate use of this word for and, but, and although. Many writers use it frequently as a substitute for and or but, either from a mere desire<br />
to vary the connective, or from uncertainty which of the two connectives is the more appropriate. In this use it is best replaced by a semicolon.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good punctuation advice, even if it does &#8220;bury the lead.&#8221;
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		<title>By: porsche</title>
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		<dc:creator>porsche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, M, regarding your posting of links to the Chicago Manual of Style:  you have to register to see those links.  While they do offer a 30-day free trial, it&#039;s a PAY site.  You aren&#039;t selling something, are you?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10906&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, M, regarding your posting of links to the Chicago Manual of Style:  you have to register to see those links.  While they do offer a 30-day free trial, it&#8217;s a PAY site.  You aren&#8217;t selling something, are you?
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas, that was one of the best examples ever.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10905&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas, that was one of the best examples ever.
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhen&#039;s question was whether to capitalize after a colon when, as in the example given, the colon is being used to link two separate clauses. The short answer, as Scott Connery has recently noted, is no. There are exceptions, of course–this is English, after all.

However, many postings betray confusion over the proper usage of colons and semicolons. Each has multiple uses, but the misunderstanding here is which one to use between independent clauses. There is a simple way to understand the distinction. (I am resisting the urge to use a colon after that sentence.) A colon joins two clauses; a semicolon separates them. 

There is more to it than that, of course. A colon indicates that the second clause follows from the first in a definite manner. It may be from premise to conclusion, from general to specific, or from cause to effect. A semicolon separates clauses that are too distinct for a mere comma yet too closely related to live separately, each in its own sentence.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10680&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhen&#8217;s question was whether to capitalize after a colon when, as in the example given, the colon is being used to link two separate clauses. The short answer, as Scott Connery has recently noted, is no. There are exceptions, of course–this is English, after all.</p>
<p>However, many postings betray confusion over the proper usage of colons and semicolons. Each has multiple uses, but the misunderstanding here is which one to use between independent clauses. There is a simple way to understand the distinction. (I am resisting the urge to use a colon after that sentence.) A colon joins two clauses; a semicolon separates them. </p>
<p>There is more to it than that, of course. A colon indicates that the second clause follows from the first in a definite manner. It may be from premise to conclusion, from general to specific, or from cause to effect. A semicolon separates clauses that are too distinct for a mere comma yet too closely related to live separately, each in its own sentence.
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please look at the Chicago Manual of Style:

http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec063.html
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec064.html

The Elements of Style is a good book, but the CMoS is a higher authority.  Wikipedia&#039;s article on &quot;Style Guide&quot; refers to EoS as a work for the &quot;general public&quot;.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-10679&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please look at the Chicago Manual of Style:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec063.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec063.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec064.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch06/ch06_sec064.html</a></p>
<p>The Elements of Style is a good book, but the CMoS is a higher authority.  Wikipedia&#8217;s article on &#8220;Style Guide&#8221; refers to EoS as a work for the &#8220;general public&#8221;.
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		<title>By: Scott Connerly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Connerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must apologize.  4 years later, I&#039;ve finally come to realize the truth: you don&#039;t capitalize after the color or the semi colon.  Sorry for the misinformation.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-9927&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must apologize.  4 years later, I&#8217;ve finally come to realize the truth: you don&#8217;t capitalize after the color or the semi colon.  Sorry for the misinformation.
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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